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thank you

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and now your host of california mufon

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welcome everyone to the california mufon

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radio show i'm your host lorian fenton

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so happy to have you

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get that app you guys and also you know

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there's all kinds of cool stuff coming

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i don't know if if joe and mj have had

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time yet to get my

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interviews and sasha and janet lesson

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were helping me fill in

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at international ufo congress and i'm

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pretty sure

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they got most of it i think there's

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about 12 hours or maybe 14 hours of

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that will be up in the insiders club i'm

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not sure when it's going to get there if

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it might even be there by now i don't

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know but

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we're going to have to get that there

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for all of you

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and i have a little conundrum tonight

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folks i'm just

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going to tell you what's going on here

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i have a guest scheduled yeah mj says

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they're getting to it so it will be up

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soon so it's well worth your while to

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pay the 4.95 a month to become a member

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of irn's insiders club folks so if you

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do that you get to hear

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all those great interviews from

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conferences and different kind of

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i'm going to do a few specials this year

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i've got some adventures coming up where

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i'm going to be recording some people

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you've never heard about before peter's

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going to go oh my god

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when you hear what they've got to say

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it's going to be really cool

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anyhow moving on um i have a very

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interesting guest scheduled for tonight

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but the problem

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i've got is he's actually in a hospital

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and he i don't think he's going to be

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with us much longer folks so i don't

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the nurse took away his phone

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i have no idea but his name is ron

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and he's been a guest here on inception

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radio network on

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other shows over the years he's an

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his last book is kind of controversial

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i'm trying to bring it up right now i'm

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trying to remember

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the the uh url

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it's stargate something stars or

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something

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uh anyhow it's about dan burrish

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and i was fascinated by this new book

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that he's put out

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it's i don't even know what to say i

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mean i'm going to talk about it for a

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i told him we tried to call him about 8

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15 this evening

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and so they gave me a few minutes to

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poke around in here and kind of

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uh do what i wanted to do about mufon

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but before we get to mufon

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i just i feel the whole dan burst thing

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when i first heard about it

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i absolutely felt it was true now to

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what extent

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it's all true i don't know um when i

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only heard about the fact that he was

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working at area 51

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and then later the story you know

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expanded into he pushed an alien through

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a portal back to his own dimensions

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after being stuck here for 50 years

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you know so i was like well you know

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i at that time it was quite a while back

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and then there was a report out that uh

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dan burrish had ended up in the hospital

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and that everybody around him said he

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and later when i got involved with the

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mind control community i thought

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oh my god well that's very similar to

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probably what they did to bob lazar when

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they made him drink that weird stuff

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that made him forget everything

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and then when i met my friend up here in

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northern california who used

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to work at a base and has absolute

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total lack of memory of many days of

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is this is what they've all told me they

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i go to work i remember getting there

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whatever i'd be doing something and then

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like what happened today and it's like

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you know five or six hours their day is

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they have no idea what happened so when

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the whole bob lazar thing happened i was

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pretty much like well that can't be real

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but then i'm meeting all these people as

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years go on and on now it's 2015 i met

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that are pretty well healed in the

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military that have said yeah

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this stuff goes on all the time they can

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totally mess with their heads they can

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that makes sense of what they did to dan

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exactly like it happened because that's

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the other thing they do to people they

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it's very similar to the first scene in

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the manchurian candidate with denzel

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washington which is my favorite movie of

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all times if you want to learn about

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what's really going on out there folks

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that's what you should be watching

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and the last born episode

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the one with the guy named aaron the

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character's name aaron and he was

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that that's very interesting

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when that happened he actually kind of

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looks like him so it's it's very

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took place i i must say hollywood has a

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unique sense of humor

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but um so watch the third born

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because it really does tell you exactly

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what they're doing to these guys

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ufo community which is

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very interesting to me because when i

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the alien agenda the ufos the whole bit

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that 15 years later i would think it had

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the world so

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very bizarre and just way too many

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people coming to me saying yep

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i don't remember a whole day at work i

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don't remember a month and a half at

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work i don't remember

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six months of my life i didn't remember

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it's just so bizarre it's just insane

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i will tell you guys all this i don't

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as most of you know i got very involved

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i was sitting with michael prince

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oh that's james caspel for those of you

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out there who don't know that

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michael prince is james caspell anyhow

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he says to me he says lorian

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and he just looks so sad you guys my

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heart was breaking for him

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he said i don't remember about oh

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truth i don't know if it's real i i'm

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not in his head i don't know

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but for somebody you know we're talking

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about something completely different and

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then he just looks at me and he gets

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horrible sad look on his face and says i

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just don't remember all these years of

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i was like oh my god you poor man you

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there are so many things they do to

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these people to abuse them now i'm not

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saying that

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90 percent or probably 99 of what

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or james had to say was absolutely the

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but i must say i got to friend him

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and he you know he seemed like he was

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telling me the truth for what he knew

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you know and he never came to me and

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said fantastical things to me he just

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you know thank god he said that he's

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since then gone way off the deep end and

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he is now in jail serving us or he's

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time but he really did go off the deep

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end and that's another thing they do to

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people folks

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is they really they either go after you

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and say you're a child pornographer like

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just bizarre things that make no sense

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targeted individuals like aaron alexis

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the the naval yard shooter they

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um yeah it's a very complex situation

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and i don't know if anybody will ever

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get to the bottom of any

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one of those wells or those rabbit holes

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as we want to say

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but in my world all those rabbit holes

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lead to one place

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and they all have a door it's like i go

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down this giant rabbit hole

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and at the bottom there's a door one

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says super soldiers one says mind

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control one says aliens one says ufos

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one says the jfk assassination i know

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you guys are laughing

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now but they're all connected as i've

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mentioned many a time on my shows

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it's like a giant spider web and the

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real key to all this

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is being able to unlock all those doors

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at the same time

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that's going to be the big mind blower

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is when we finally figure out that

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possibly there's an ai connection to all

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this you know the god the

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the superconductor computer that's

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running the universe maybe

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it is has a sense of humor maybe one day

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open the door so we could all see what's

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going on with the ghosts the vampires

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the

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connected to all this so anyhow as you

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guys can tell my allergies are

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really beating me up i'm kind of gravely

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and i sound like uh

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marlena dietrich yeah marlena dietrich

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here

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and i'm trying not to so um anyhow what

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was i saying

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my gosh oh it's 8 14 i can't go on to

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too much but i do want to talk about

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mufon here for a minute but

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mj you want to try to give ron a call

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let's see if we can get him and if we

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can't then i'm going to talk about mufon

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well folks i'm just going to take a sip

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okay let's see what happens okay the big

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moment this is where the drum roll

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starts

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well there we go folks i don't know if

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we're gonna be able to get our guests in

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tonight

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and uh i had a funny feeling now i'll

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tell you a bit about ron now

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what i've gotta do since i can't get him

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on the phone

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is i'm gonna talk about his book tonight

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and i have to go find

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his website tell you what i'll do that

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during the first break so

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here's what we're going to do for the

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next part of the show i'm going to talk

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about mufon

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and we're going to talk a bit about ufo

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con

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other things what's happened with stan

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lee's and roman ack

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for ufo con and then we'll go find his

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website

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we'll talk about the dan burris book

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and you know what i'll go in there and

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i'll see if i can find any more

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information that i can read to you guys

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from the book and if i can great if not

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you know what we'll do we'll just do

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open questions for the last part of the

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show maybe the last 45 minutes of the

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show tonight so you guys can ask

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me anything you want oh gosh i could be

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getting myself in big trouble now

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okay so and i have the word out to a few

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people

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i was uh you know instead of what they

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call butt dialing on

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your cell phone i was uh finger dialing

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on skype to see if i can get any of my

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friends to join us in here

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and uh we'll see oh there we go area 51j

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rod that's it thank you mj beautiful

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okay well okay before we get to that

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i am going to go to the mufon reports

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of the ufo citing statistics for

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february yay

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so excited i don't know about you guys i

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just love this report it just

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it makes my day makes me smile makes me

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laugh i just love it

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okay the united states had 478

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reports wow that's a lot

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uh in february that's just mind-boggling

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canada had 30 the united kingdom had 21.

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you know i think that as you all know

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and i know

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i don't think it i know it it's because

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mufon in the united states is so active

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that we get that many reports if we

384
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could just get

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uh mufon in the rest of the world as

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active as it is here

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boy i'll tell you what i'd love to see

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the real stats

389
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i would love to see how many are

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actually over mexico all the time that

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would be just

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phenomenal so anyhow okay united states

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478 canada 30 united kingdom 21

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india's oh india pulled up a little bit

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and australia

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dropped that's interesting india had

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nine australia you had eight

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and you you what uruguay oh my gosh

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uruguay came up to the top too mexico

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dropped way down there with five hmm

401
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very intriguing okay well that's fun

402
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okay here we go by state california had

403
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84

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as usual we are the ufo state you know

405
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that should be our license plate

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the ufo state

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that's what we got to do i got it okay

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i'm gonna start uh doing a campaign for

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mufon

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to get license plates for california

411
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that say california

412
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is the mufon state that would be awesome

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okay now i got bubbles going on here mj

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i don't know what's hap who's trying to

415
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get a hold of me and what's going on

416
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trying to find him can't find him okay

417
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well anyhow if somebody does uh get

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online here and say they can do the show

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i'll let you know mj okay so anyhow yeah

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california 84.

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and then florida had 34. now that's

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interesting florida doesn't usually

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creep

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up to second place too often texas is

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usually

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in second place and they are at 26.

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pennsylvania is creeping up a little bit

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they were a little higher a couple

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months ago as well

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22 new jersey had 18.

431
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now that's cool new york has dropped

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down it's got

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only had 13. oregon only had 11 this

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month and nevada only had nine and they

435
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usually have quite a bit more

436
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hmm that's interesting very interesting

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colorado creeped up

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16. wow very cool arizona's at its usual

439
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spot

440
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about 15 to 20. and

441
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uh there we go so we're not going to do

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any more on that but north dakota was

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solid last with south dakota with one

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each

445
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very sad i don't know why

446
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the dakota's always running the bottom

447
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spot

448
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okay here we are my absolute favorite

449
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part of the whole thing

450
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the shape of the object and the number

451
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of reports

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spheres have always kind of been at the

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top

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but what is very interesting to me and

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spheres are at the top this month there

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are 117 of those reports

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described as fear likes craft or object

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or something in the sky

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now this is what blows my mind folks

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people

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said star-like objects 56 reports were

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star-like

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objects and that is the shape of the

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object

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now i don't know about you guys but if

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it's a star-like object then isn't it

467
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really just a

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glowing orb or a ball of light or

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something

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i don't know how could it be star-like

471
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if

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it's metal or a ship or something like

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that

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unless it has a plasma field around it

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that's causing it to glow in that way

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that's the only thing i can come up with

477
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to describe what might be going with the

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star

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like shape who was way down at the

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bottom for years and years and in the

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last two years last 18 months

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has gone from the very bottom now all

483
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the way to second

484
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place which blows my mind

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now triangles which are usually hovering

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around

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fifth or sixth have come in third this

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month 55 triangles

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and they're right in place with the disc

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shape at 55 which usually beats out the

491
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triangles so this is very interesting

492
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now you know what

493
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really blows my mind about this list

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this month

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there were 51 others and others means

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there's no description

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on this list for them so that doesn't

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i mean what so are we defining a whole

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new category

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that we've got to come up with for the

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other category

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i would love to have somebody break down

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the

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people that are

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reporting them i would just really love

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to hear that broken down even

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further because if it doesn't fall under

508
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my god okay here's the here's the list

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sphere

510
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starlight triangle disc circle

511
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fireball cylinder oval square rectangle

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diamond cigar boomerang egg flash

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blimp chevron bullet missile teardrop

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cone

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saturn-like crosses i mean

516
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how could it be other than any of those

517
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shades i mean how many

518
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other shapes are there this is what i'm

519
00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:26,080
trying to get at folks this really kind

520
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of bothers me because

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what in the heck was it because if you

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can't describe it under all of those

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descriptions then really we're in

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trouble i mean that other category

525
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should be like one

526
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and it used to be like one and zero all

527
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the time

528
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now having said that it could be the

529
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fault of the

530
00:19:49,029 --> 00:19:47,200
investigator it could be the fault of

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the person describing it to the

532
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investigator

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it could be many people's faults as to

534
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why so many

535
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became other descriptors but

536
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uh very interesting very interesting to

537
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me i hope you're interested in it too it

538
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just kind of really bothers me

539
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so this is a good time for you guys to

540
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join mufon and become a mufon member

541
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and then become an investigator so that

542
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you can make sure

543
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that these other categories don't happen

544
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i would really love to see that that

545
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would be awesome

546
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:22,000
hey laurie okay i have some padded stats

547
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that

548
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in the email you want to hear

549
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some more on that report yes

550
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is this about the others no this yeah

551
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this is about the

552
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distance from the objects and

553
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well here here we go i'll just i'll just

554
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tell the listeners quick um on my report

555
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on my report i guess distance from

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witness uh less than 100 feet

557
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from the object 85 people 85 cases

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100 to 500 feet 89 cases

559
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uh 500 feet to one mile 120 cases

560
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:58,240
over one mile 161 unknown 181 and no

561
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:59,600
value 23 and this

562
00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:01,440
is this is the cool stat i watch for

563
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:03,760
every month most impressively there were

564
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:05,760
16 landings

565
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:08,000
hoverings or takeoffs and no entities

566
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:10,320
observed

567
00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:12,559
what can you repeat that again how many

568
00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:13,440
no entities

569
00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:15,760
observed there was none zero there was

570
00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:16,799
none oh okay

571
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,480
but some months there would be two two

572
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:20,480
three four maybe ten on that list

573
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:22,400
but i can't i can't see what case it is

574
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:24,480
but that's the stats i get

575
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:27,760
wow that's pretty cool now because we do

576
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,720
get distance

577
00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:30,640
um from witness down at the bottom okay

578
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:32,080
you do see that too yeah i get that

579
00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:33,760
little extra line but it's it's neat

580
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:35,600
seeing that extra line and

581
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:36,960
like i said i'll i'll let you know what

582
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:39,520
that is every month too oh that'd be hot

583
00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:41,440
yeah especially the one about the aliens

584
00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:42,559
at the craft

585
00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:46,000
yeah yeah i like that but mj answer me a

586
00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:46,799
question

587
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:49,120
what goes on with this other category

588
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:51,120
casino that bothers me to see it as

589
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:53,840
number three because that's 51

590
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:55,760
cases where nobody can figure out the

591
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:57,679
shape of the object

592
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,480
i guess yeah that is that is strange

593
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:02,640
maybe

594
00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:06,640
explain it or

595
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:08,400
i don't know that's weird what would it

596
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:09,919
be isn't it weird i mean because i'm

597
00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:11,200
telling you i think someone

598
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,799
entered that wrong because other is

599
00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:14,400
usually down at the bottom

600
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:16,400
and it usually has like three to you

601
00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:17,600
know 10 maybe

602
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:20,799
if it's lucky i've never seen it hit 51

603
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:21,520
like that

604
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:23,440
and yeah and there's no unknown on that

605
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:25,360
so weird

606
00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:28,400
well unknown has gone up to 47. oh yeah

607
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:29,039
there it is

608
00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:32,480
okay hmm i mean this is

609
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:35,760
that what that tells me is we've got uh

610
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:38,720
98 cases that we can't figure out what's

611
00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:39,679
going on

612
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:42,799
it seems like high strangeness to me it

613
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:44,080
seems like high numbers

614
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:45,919
yeah oh yeah oh yeah well i'll let you

615
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:47,280
get back to the shoulder

616
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:50,880
thank you well that was mj you guys now

617
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mj if you guys don't know this

618
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:56,080
is the pang radio show host here at

619
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inception radio network and i love

620
00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:59,280
saying that word paying

621
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,960
i still haven't even asked him what it

622
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,559
means and why it got to be the name of

623
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:04,080
the show but we'll do that on another

624
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:04,880
day

625
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:08,080
and he is also one of the owners of the

626
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:09,760
station which is fabulous

627
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:11,760
and the most important part to all that

628
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:12,799
is he is a state

629
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:15,919
section director and boy he's going to

630
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:16,559
beat me up

631
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:18,880
it's either wisconsin or minnesota but

632
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:20,640
he's got a minnesotan accent

633
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:24,559
so it probably is minnesota

634
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,320
but we'll see here he might be on the

635
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:28,000
border maybe that's it

636
00:23:32,230 --> 00:23:29,760
so he's gonna have to type it to me and

637
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:32,240
let me know where what state it is

638
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:34,240
so i think it now that i said that it's

639
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:36,000
probably wisconsin

640
00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:39,440
i'm in trouble anyhow so mj is a state

641
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:41,679
sector director he's fabulous he does a

642
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,760
great job and he told me before the show

643
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:45,600
today that they got all the reports and

644
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,120
they're doing really good

645
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,039
and you know thank god for that because

646
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,360
he does a lot of work for mufon you guys

647
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:53,840
he really does besides running irn

648
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:56,960
he's he's always working with mufon and

649
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:58,960
doing investigations and all kinds of

650
00:24:02,230 --> 00:23:59,840
things so

651
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,240
it's really amazing to me um you know

652
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,080
that we all have the time we do

653
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:07,360
we make it for mufon and i just love

654
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:09,679
being part of mufon so what can i say

655
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:13,679
okay now i have had a lot of people go

656
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:18,640
to ufocon2015.com you guys might want to

657
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:21,120
go there with me tonight

658
00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:23,360
i'm going to wait for you to open it up

659
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:25,039
and what has happened

660
00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:26,799
is i've had a really rough week around

661
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:28,880
producing this you guys i don't know

662
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:30,559
i thought producing the mind control

663
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:32,799
conferences was tough and that they were

664
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:34,400
after me for those

665
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:36,320
but they must not like me very much

666
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:38,320
because

667
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:41,520
my friend todd michael can't

668
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,840
appear this year and he just told me

669
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,360
this week as well

670
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:47,520
and i had uh basically been promoting

671
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:49,520
todd for a very long time he's a very

672
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:50,960
good friend of mine and i'm going to

673
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:51,360
miss

674
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:56,880
an issue with family and stuff and he

675
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,000
just cannot

676
00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:00,400
be with us we've tried every means to

677
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:01,760
get him away from them

678
00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:04,240
but there's something going on that i

679
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:06,159
can't talk about that's very important

680
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:08,400
and he needs to be with them so

681
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:10,559
um that's what's happening with todd so

682
00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:12,640
he had to drop out this week which was

683
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:14,799
kind of okay because he'll she'll show

684
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:16,400
up for another one he'll be there

685
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,279
someday

686
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:19,360
and he's got oh you guys have heard him

687
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,520
here he's got amazing stories especially

688
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:23,039
the story about how the

689
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:24,880
bailey has fixed his refrigerator i

690
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:26,720
still love that story i can hear it 50

691
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,080
times i'm just like a kid

692
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:30,720
like at night tell me a story daddy you

693
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,200
know

694
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:33,600
and he he tells me the story but the

695
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,520
alien fixing the refrigerator and i just

696
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:37,200
cracked up every time he says that i

697
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:37,520
start

698
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:39,840
laughing because it's the only time i've

699
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:41,760
heard somebody say

700
00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:44,000
an alien fix my appliances you know i

701
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:46,400
keep asking them do they have warranties

702
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,080
you know what do they do when they're

703
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:50,080
done so idiot

704
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:52,559
great great guy and i'm he's sorely

705
00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:55,039
going to be missed at the conference so

706
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:57,039
he tells me this and then i'm just like

707
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:58,880
oh i'm devastated

708
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:00,720
and then it's uh that was either

709
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:02,320
saturday or friday and then

710
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:05,360
sunday i have to call stan and lisa and

711
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:05,679
i'm

712
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:07,840
calling them and we're having our usual

713
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:09,840
talk and stan's very quiet and i'm like

714
00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:12,400
why are you so quiet what's going on and

715
00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:13,760
he says

716
00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:16,159
i can't do the i said how are we doing

717
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:18,400
it now and he goes i can't do it i said

718
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:20,320
oh my god you're kidding he goes now i'm

719
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:21,840
not he goes i can't do it i've tried

720
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:22,480
every

721
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:25,840
it like we were talking about

722
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:29,279
and what we had decided was that

723
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:30,880
he was he and lisa were just going to

724
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:33,039
appear on the phone because he's not

725
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:35,200
allowed at this time to use a computer

726
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:38,559
they're not allowed to do any um

727
00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:41,440
uh videotapes they're not allowed to do

728
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,159
anything

729
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:44,880
and because of the court case which many

730
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:46,720
of you know about now

731
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:48,640
we're almost at the bottom of the hour

732
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:51,039
and i really do want to talk about

733
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:52,960
what's happened to stan and what i'd

734
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:55,279
like to do also

735
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:56,720
is i'm going to finish up about ufo

736
00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:57,919
connor then i want to talk about what's

737
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:59,200
happened to stan and then we'll go to

738
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,080
the book about

739
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:02,240
that ron's book who was supposed to be

740
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:03,760
on the show tonight

741
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:06,880
and what we'll do is i'm going to take

742
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,480
uh questions from the chat about stan

743
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:12,559
and i'll answer them to the best of my

744
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:14,320
ability folks i know quite a bit

745
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:15,919
but there's a lot of things i can't talk

746
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:17,760
about but i can't talk about the basic

747
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:18,320
stuff

748
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:21,840
so um if you're interested in that just

749
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:22,799
let me know

750
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,360
and i do have a tirade i go on about

751
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,120
stan and i'll probably go on it here in

752
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:29,520
a minute so

753
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,520
so stay with us you guys get to listen

754
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,440
to me have smoke coming out of my ears

755
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:35,279
tonight it'll be a lot of fun so we'll

756
00:28:04,230 --> 00:27:37,279
be right back after our first break

757
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:06,630
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lorian fenton really happy to have you

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guys all here with me tonight we're kind

828
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:13,600
of around the campfire because i don't

829
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:15,200
have a guest with me this evening but

830
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:16,320
it's okay

831
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:18,000
because i've got lots to talk about

832
00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:20,080
myself and i just wasn't planning on it

833
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:21,200
tonight or i would have

834
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:22,880
gotten a lot of things ready for you

835
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:25,039
guys but uh

836
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:26,799
it's all right we'll survive i'll

837
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:28,720
survive you guys will survive and you

838
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:29,760
might actually even

839
00:31:33,909 --> 00:31:33,200
learn something who knows about me at

840
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:33,919
least or

841
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:35,600
who knows i don't know what i'm talking

842
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,200
about you guys i'm just having a funny

843
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:39,120
evening this evening so

844
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:42,080
anyhow back to ufo con i got to say it's

845
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:43,039
coming up on march

846
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,600
28th and 29th i hope you guys are going

847
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:47,200
to try to make it

848
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:50,480
we got 16 days about 13 hours and 24

849
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:51,840
minutes before it

850
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:54,880
touches down in santa clara california

851
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:57,200
but i lost todd this week then i call up

852
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:58,720
stan and then i lose stan

853
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:00,799
and lisa which is really heartbreaking

854
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,720
for me and then i'm sitting there what

855
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:04,240
am i going to do what am i going to do

856
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,320
and i realized that

857
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,399
i was thinking about asking preston

858
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:10,480
dennett to come on to the show because

859
00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:13,279
he has some really amazing information

860
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:15,200
he's one of those researchers out there

861
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:16,720
that isn't like

862
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:19,120
super you know like super hot on the

863
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:19,760
circuit

864
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:22,000
because i don't know why i i think he's

865
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:23,519
a wonderful guy i've heard him on coast

866
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:25,600
to coast i've seen him on ancient aliens

867
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,919
and

868
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:27,360
you know just all kinds of stuff like

869
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:29,440
this he's been on lots of shows

870
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:33,679
um so um oh we got a question already

871
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:35,679
about stan i knew that was coming

872
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:37,120
okay you guys i'm gonna try to get into

873
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:38,880
the chat room here in a minute too as

874
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:39,919
well so

875
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:42,960
uh thanks for that mj anyhow so the

876
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:43,840
whole thing

877
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:46,240
was i thought well you know he's got a

878
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:47,440
new book out called

879
00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:50,720
uh ufos over nevada

880
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:52,640
and i'd remember that he had a book

881
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:54,799
called ufos over california out

882
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:57,360
about a year or two ago so i gave

883
00:33:00,549 --> 00:32:58,480
preston a call

884
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:00,559
and he was so gracious folks so we got

885
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:02,720
to just thank him right now he said yeah

886
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:03,840
i'll be there you know

887
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:06,240
he said where do i go what time do i be

888
00:33:09,269 --> 00:33:07,039
there

889
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:09,279
instead of well i gotta check you know

890
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:10,640
all this he's just like yeah i'll be

891
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:11,039
there

892
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:13,120
i'll i'd be happy to help you out so

893
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:14,080
preston

894
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,080
dennett will be that the conference in

895
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,000
place of todd so i've got him replaced

896
00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:19,840
so far now here's the hard part

897
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:21,039
uh here's where i'm kind of really

898
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:23,120
having a meltdown i'm gonna share all my

899
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,000
personal stuff with

900
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:26,559
you guys tonight um putting on the

901
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,559
conference wise

902
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,640
my good friend plutronis who's been on

903
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:32,880
this show so many times as you guys all

904
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:33,679
know and we

905
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:35,440
and i love him to pieces i don't know if

906
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:37,039
you guys do but i do

907
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:39,919
he's one of my best friends and we all

908
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:42,399
got to say big huge prayers for this guy

909
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:44,640
because um he was in the hospital for

910
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:47,039
five days last week he's not doing well

911
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:48,559
he's doing better

912
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,720
he went in for five he was out for a day

913
00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:52,799
or two then he went back in for two

914
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:56,080
and now he's out again and i just i'm

915
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:57,919
very concerned for him

916
00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:00,320
so i and and we're laughing because he

917
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:02,000
says you're only concerned about me

918
00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:03,360
because you want me to show up on the

919
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:05,679
28th and 29th and then i can die

920
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:09,919
right i'm like no that's not the case

921
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:12,240
but you know it is the case in a weird

922
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:13,520
way it's like you know i've been

923
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:15,760
advertising him now forever and i really

924
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:16,079
have

925
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:18,000
nobody to replace him so i'm just kind

926
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:20,320
of going oh my god but

927
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,560
uh besides that he is one of my best

928
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,240
friends and i'm very concerned about him

929
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:26,159
so i really hope that all of you people

930
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:28,480
out there could do me a huge favor

931
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:30,960
and and pray for tron you can say

932
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:33,359
plutonius or tron the vibration's the

933
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:34,000
same it'll

934
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:37,919
get to him and i just you know he is

935
00:34:42,470 --> 00:34:40,240
you guys he's the smartest guy i know

936
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:42,480
and i know some very smart people

937
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:44,800
i know people that are like einstein

938
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:45,679
people

939
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,679
and i'll tell you this guy he may come

940
00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:49,760
on the show and he may be

941
00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:52,159
uh plutonius he may be the tron he may

942
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:54,560
be what he is on my radio show but

943
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:56,399
what you guys don't know about this guy

944
00:35:01,589 --> 00:34:58,000
is that he can think

945
00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:01,599
circles around 99 of the scientists at

946
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:02,079
nasa

947
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:05,680
livermore um he would not have been

948
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:08,720
hired by the department of defense uh

949
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,040
to do things that he can't even talk

950
00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:13,359
about that i know a little hint about

951
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:15,920
that would blow you guys minds

952
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:17,280
absolutely away

953
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,839
absolutely so i'm just telling you if we

954
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:22,000
lose him we're going to lose somebody

955
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:24,800
who is working on and this is public

956
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:26,320
knowledge he's working on

957
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:30,079
a ufo detector and he swears to me he's

958
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:31,760
not dying until that thing is

959
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:34,800
done because that is his life's dream to

960
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:35,520
do that

961
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:37,760
and what he wants to do is he wants to

962
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:40,240
have a ufo detector on every home in the

963
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:41,920
united states

964
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:44,000
that's his goal who knows if it'll

965
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:46,480
happen but i think it's an amazing goal

966
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:49,440
and if anybody can build it he can and

967
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:51,280
he's doing an amazing job with it and

968
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:52,960
we're hoping that you know sometime

969
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:55,760
soon in the next year or so we'll have

970
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:56,320
that

971
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:58,320
available for everybody here at the

972
00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:00,400
network and i'm sure tron will still be

973
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:00,960
with us

974
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,760
uh when this all blows over and i'm sure

975
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:05,760
he'll present at ufo con

976
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:08,160
he said even if he has to crawl up there

977
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:09,119
he'll make it

978
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,680
so there you are so that's that's my

979
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:14,160
little tragedies this week so far

980
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:16,800
so um i'm dealing with that and i've

981
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:18,240
still got to replace

982
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:21,920
uh stan romanak so oh and jonathan nolan

983
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:23,520
who's been on the show here is on two

984
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:24,320
weeks ago

985
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,119
and he is going to be there live and in

986
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:29,119
person from australia it's the first

987
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:30,640
time he's ever

988
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:33,200
spoken at a ufo conference he's spoken

989
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:33,760
at uh

990
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:35,839
other types of conferences but never at

991
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:37,440
a ufo conference

992
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,640
and he has discovered and i believe we

993
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:42,640
mentioned this couple weeks ago on the

994
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:44,240
show but i want to reiterate this

995
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:44,880
because it's

996
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:47,119
very important that you guys understand

997
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:48,880
what he's going through right now

998
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:52,320
in the moment as i'm talking to you he

999
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:55,680
and well not just he a friend of his or

1000
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:58,320
somebody in his mining group i'm not

1001
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:59,040
sure who it

1002
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,200
is i haven't gotten that deep into it

1003
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:03,520
because all we ever do now is just say

1004
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:04,880
you're gonna be here at this time and

1005
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:06,240
this is what you're doing and blah blah

1006
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:06,960
blah

1007
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:09,119
but um he's going to give a lot more

1008
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:11,119
details at the conference he's going to

1009
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,200
talk about it he might even have some

1010
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:15,359
footage i'm just we're praying he can

1011
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:16,960
find some footage by then

1012
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:19,920
but here's what's going on he works uh

1013
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:21,680
in the solomon islands

1014
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:24,400
which is off the gosh is it the west

1015
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:25,920
coast or the i think it's the east

1016
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:29,359
west coast of australia and

1017
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:32,480
he works there as a miner and he also

1018
00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:34,000
sets up

1019
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,920
communities there for banking

1020
00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:37,839
communities anyhow i'm not going to go

1021
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:39,760
into all the details of what his job is

1022
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:42,480
but in the course of his job he has to

1023
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:43,440
hang out

1024
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:46,880
at these remote places that have just

1025
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:47,200
like

1026
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:49,440
a bar in a shack where people stand

1027
00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:51,119
there and you know throw their glasses

1028
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:52,720
on the dirt floor

1029
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,839
type of thing and he was telling me that

1030
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:57,920
one of the guys in his group came up to

1031
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,079
him and said i just saw or

1032
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:02,400
somebody just saw a ufo coming out of

1033
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:04,160
the water over here

1034
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:06,240
and he's like oh yeah right and so you

1035
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:08,480
know this goes on for like a year i mean

1036
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:08,880
then

1037
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:11,119
they finally realized that there is a

1038
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,040
ufo base under here

1039
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:15,440
under this uh this little bay this

1040
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,560
little inlet and this

1041
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:18,640
very remote part of the world folks i

1042
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:19,920
can't even tell you where it is yet

1043
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:21,760
because it's up to him to reveal where

1044
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,640
it is

1045
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:24,720
but it's in the very remote parts of

1046
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:26,000
these island chains

1047
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:30,160
and he's there and sure enough this one

1048
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:31,520
kid in their group gets

1049
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:34,079
finally gets footage of this now it

1050
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:36,079
turns out in the time that they've all

1051
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:37,599
discovered and all the people in the

1052
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:39,440
area and the tribes people know that

1053
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:42,240
these ufos are coming out of the water

1054
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:45,520
there has appeared a pirate ship that's

1055
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,880
what they're calling it they're calling

1056
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:49,200
it a pirate ship but there's guys in

1057
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:49,680
black

1058
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:51,200
uniforms that look like they're

1059
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:52,800
halliburton or

1060
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:56,240
military or who knows what

1061
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:58,880
uh cia i don't know i'm just throwing

1062
00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:00,079
names out because i have

1063
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:02,720
no clue who these people are he doesn't

1064
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:04,079
either but he knows that they're

1065
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:06,079
military and he knows they're nasty and

1066
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,079
he knows that they've showed up there

1067
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:10,400
and they're patrolling that bay day and

1068
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:11,359
night now

1069
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:14,160
now here's what happened five weeks ago

1070
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:15,680
one of the kids that

1071
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:19,280
got actual video footage of the ufos

1072
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:21,760
coming out of the water

1073
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:25,200
was coming back to the mainland and

1074
00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:28,240
trying to deliver the video footage and

1075
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:28,880
he got

1076
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,440
close to the edge of one of the bigger

1077
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:33,520
islands on the way to the mainland and

1078
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:35,280
he was attacked and killed

1079
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:38,240
and he was killed in a very horrific way

1080
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:39,520
folks he was

1081
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:42,160
basically hacked up and that's the only

1082
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:43,520
way i'm going to describe it you know

1083
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:45,119
what they do with machetes in africa

1084
00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:47,920
well they did this to this poor man

1085
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:51,200
since that happened uh they and they

1086
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:52,320
were told it was

1087
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:54,640
a robbery okay now it could have been a

1088
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:56,320
robbery i don't know but that was what

1089
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:57,200
they were told

1090
00:40:01,990 --> 00:40:00,160
in the the mining group and and they

1091
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:02,000
were pretty concerned but

1092
00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:04,079
what are you going to do and in that

1093
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:05,839
same instance

1094
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:09,200
they realized that back at the camp

1095
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:12,319
in another part of the islands there is

1096
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:13,839
more video footage

1097
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:15,520
because he's just bringing out pieces i

1098
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:16,960
guess i don't know how they knew this

1099
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:18,640
but

1100
00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:21,599
the kid that went to retrieve the video

1101
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:24,079
footage that was left behind

1102
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:27,359
was shot and murdered so now everybody

1103
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:28,800
has bodyguards

1104
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:32,000
and uh it's gotten way crazy

1105
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:35,359
as far as um what they're doing to

1106
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:36,160
jonathan

1107
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:37,839
and that's what he's going to be talking

1108
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,599
about for the first time ever is this

1109
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:41,760
whole thing that's going on down there

1110
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:44,240
and what the place looks like he's going

1111
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:45,200
to give us

1112
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,200
many many more details so i'm very

1113
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:49,359
excited about this this is like a huge

1114
00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:50,400
thing and we're

1115
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:52,079
right now i'm trying to get him on some

1116
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:53,599
major networks and

1117
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:56,160
uh just get him out there so that he's

1118
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:57,920
kept alive i mean right now at this

1119
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:59,280
point i don't know what to do but we got

1120
00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:00,800
to keep him alive that's the most

1121
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:02,400
important thing now i've got to cough so

1122
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:11,990
see now that's what i do when i have a

1123
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:13,440
guest

1124
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:16,000
i can do that you guys don't even know

1125
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:17,440
what's happening but i

1126
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:25,430
so anyhow that's what we're doing with

1127
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:27,200
jonathan nolan he's going to be

1128
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:31,119
uh being like a super expert

1129
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:35,920
person on this so hey mj can you uh

1130
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,319
uh i'm not sure i've got to cough and

1131
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:40,079
it's a pretty bad cough here so i don't

1132
00:41:46,829 --> 00:41:42,640
want to leave dead air

1133
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:46,839
can you um talk to the gang for just a

1134
00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:01,990
hello gang how's it going out there

1135
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:03,200
tonight mj here

1136
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:05,839
this sunday we actually have on bill and

1137
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,560
nancy burns so join us for uh

1138
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:10,240
a little reunion with future theater and

1139
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:12,400
bill and nancy burns so that'll uh

1140
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,640
be a fun show i know bill will join us

1141
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:16,079
the first hour

1142
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,280
but after that we get nancy the

1143
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:20,880
full show so it'll be fun me and ken

1144
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:23,359
will be on with bill talking about their

1145
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:25,839
ufo hunters episode and uh some of

1146
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:28,000
bill's research on ufo hunter so good

1147
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,000
stuff good stuff so

1148
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:32,960
i tell you what let's go to break here

1149
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:34,720
quick we'll do a little earlier oh no no

1150
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:36,160
that's okay i'm finally back

1151
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:37,359
oh you're back there you go can't

1152
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:39,040
believe it i can't believe what i just

1153
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:41,599
had i had a major attack it's like

1154
00:42:46,309 --> 00:42:44,720
oh my gosh you okay you know it's f yeah

1155
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:46,319
i'm okay i think i'll be all right well

1156
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:47,920
if it happens again we will go to a

1157
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:49,920
break because it was a pretty nasty

1158
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:53,200
attack here and uh you know what's funny

1159
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:56,000
mj is that this happened right when i

1160
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:57,119
started talking about the little

1161
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:58,000
jonathan nolan

1162
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:01,920
thing oh better change the subject

1163
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:04,800
yeah yeah and every time he and i even

1164
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:07,280
try to talk about it on skype

1165
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,400
we get cut off so i don't know what's

1166
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,319
going on folks i think it's very bizarre

1167
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:14,160
thanks mj i really appreciate it

1168
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:17,359
no problem okay so anyhow folks i

1169
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,880
i don't know what's going on with this

1170
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,400
whole thing but

1171
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:22,640
i think he's got a big piece of the

1172
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,240
puzzle and i think he's going to be

1173
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,640
extraordinary to see at ufo khan if you

1174
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:28,400
can make it because i think he's just

1175
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:29,680
going to steal the show

1176
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:32,720
to be honest with you and then like i

1177
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:34,720
said i'm trying to get him on

1178
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,319
some big name shows over the next month

1179
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:40,160
and just keep them alive i think that's

1180
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:42,000
the most important thing at this point

1181
00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:46,240
so okay so that's enough about ufo con

1182
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:48,800
i'm just having traumas and moments and

1183
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:50,160
you know every time i put on a

1184
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:52,079
conference this is what happens oh and i

1185
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:53,040
do have to

1186
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:55,040
i've got to read you guys something very

1187
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:56,319
funny here

1188
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,960
uh it says more news we are fortunate to

1189
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:01,200
have an ambassador from another galaxy

1190
00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:04,240
joining us at ufo con mr zeta reticuli

1191
00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:05,599
will be in the house

1192
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,160
we have loads of fun we had loads of fun

1193
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:10,480
with him at ufo con 2012.

1194
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,319
i can still see him and his lovely

1195
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:14,640
klingon wife dancing to robert perala

1196
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:16,960
playing beatles songs on his guitar

1197
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:18,800
i've asked zeta if he would bring along

1198
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:20,480
his cousin zetan

1199
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:23,440
who was a big hit at ufo con 2013. you

1200
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:25,119
will be able to take your picture with

1201
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:25,599
zeta

1202
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:28,319
and z tan adam as a memento of the

1203
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:29,359
weekend

1204
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,319
fair warning though zeta has asked to

1205
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:34,160
help out at the conference and he's

1206
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:36,560
offered to direct parking but he only

1207
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:38,640
communicates telepathically so i'm not

1208
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:41,359
sure this is the best job for him

1209
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:44,560
he's assures me that he can i'm sorry i

1210
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:45,920
laugh every time i read this

1211
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:48,400
he assures me that he that he has parked

1212
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:49,119
his ufo

1213
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:52,160
in the hangars at area 51 so how hard

1214
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:54,319
can it be to direct humans to a parking

1215
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:55,040
lot

1216
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,960
anyone know of a good interstellar

1217
00:45:02,270 --> 00:44:58,720
insurance company

1218
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:02,280
anyhow that's up on the the main site

1219
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:04,079
ufocon2015.com if you just

1220
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:05,920
peruse on down the page you'll see a

1221
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:08,800
picture of ambassador zeta reticuli

1222
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:11,440
he will be there in person along with

1223
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:12,960
his cousin zetan

1224
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:17,040
now satan doesn't talk he doesn't move

1225
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,000
he doesn't do anything

1226
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:19,920
but he just he's there so hold on a

1227
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:31,349
okay i'm back so but c10

1228
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:34,319
doesn't move much but mr zeta reticula

1229
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:34,800
does

1230
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:36,720
so he he'll be there and he'll see you

1231
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:39,119
guys and that'll be a lot of fun

1232
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:41,920
okay well enough of ufo con i'm pretty

1233
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,319
much

1234
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,560
over talking about all the craziness

1235
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:46,000
going on around it but it's

1236
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:49,440
going to be spectacular you know what

1237
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:52,720
i'm one last thing about it whenever i

1238
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:53,119
have

1239
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,720
this much trouble putting on a

1240
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:56,640
conference it's usually one of the best

1241
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:58,480
conferences i ever put on and that

1242
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:00,720
because what happens is

1243
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,079
the energy around it just gets you know

1244
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:06,400
more and more intense because people are

1245
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:07,839
going oh now what

1246
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:10,960
you know what's gonna happen next and uh

1247
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,800
they all show up and we have a great

1248
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:14,640
time and it's so much fun it's like

1249
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:17,040
finding your long-lost family folks

1250
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:18,880
so i do hope you can make it if you're

1251
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,800
in on the west coast anywhere on the

1252
00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:22,480
west coast please try to make it it's

1253
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:24,319
very affordable

1254
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:27,200
and there's lots of hotels in the area

1255
00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:29,200
and we just have a really really good

1256
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,839
time

1257
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:31,440
and this year we've added something

1258
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:33,200
we've never done before and that is

1259
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:34,000
we're offering

1260
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:36,560
lunch both saturday and sunday at the

1261
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:38,000
conference at a very

1262
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:39,520
reasonable price for all that you're

1263
00:46:42,309 --> 00:46:41,119
getting and

1264
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,319
that we don't even have to leave the

1265
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:44,240
building so unless you want to go out

1266
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:45,760
for dinner or something like that on

1267
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:47,760
sunday which is available but we're also

1268
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:49,760
having our fundraiser on saturday night

1269
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,880
at a restaurant

1270
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:52,640
so we got lots of activities it's not

1271
00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:54,240
like you just go sit there hear somebody

1272
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:55,839
speak we've got things planned from the

1273
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:56,319
morning

1274
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:59,280
until night both days a lot of fun sky

1275
00:47:01,750 --> 00:47:00,960
watch on sunday night it's going to be

1276
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:01,760
great

1277
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:05,200
so i do hope you guys show up and

1278
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:09,040
be with us it'll be great okay i'm uh

1279
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:11,119
let's see what am i doing i'm trying to

1280
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:13,520
find that website

1281
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:16,400
la de da la sorry you guys i just was

1282
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:18,000
not expecting not to have

1283
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,160
a guest with me tonight i would have

1284
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,319
prepared much more so

1285
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,720
okay here we are now this is ron

1286
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:26,720
gardner's website

1287
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:30,720
and it's called area 51et and

1288
00:47:38,349 --> 00:47:34,640
yeah area51jrod.com

1289
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:38,359
is the website area 51

1290
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:41,920
jrod.com we'll talk about this for a

1291
00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:43,839
while and then i will go back into the

1292
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:44,480
stan

1293
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,480
uh questions in the last half hour of

1294
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,000
the show

1295
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:50,640
okay so let's see what we can do here oh

1296
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:53,200
yeah you know what um

1297
00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:55,520
at this website i really want you guys

1298
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:56,559
to check out

1299
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:02,630
videos he has on here i did see them the

1300
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:03,599
other day

1301
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:06,960
and it was very intriguing there is a

1302
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:10,319
video of my good friend mark mccandless

1303
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:14,000
talking to dan burrish about

1304
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:17,119
what it looked like in area 51

1305
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:19,200
at the hangers and what and what the

1306
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:21,760
area layout was and mark mccandless

1307
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,599
is if you don't know he's been on the

1308
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:25,359
show he

1309
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:28,400
is a graphic designer

1310
00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:31,520
or graphic uh aero engineer artist i

1311
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:33,680
don't know if there is such a word but

1312
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:36,000
he was build not building he was

1313
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:37,760
designing and drawing

1314
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:41,599
um secret space not secret space

1315
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:44,000
secret aircraft i keep thinking of the

1316
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:46,079
secret space program which does exist

1317
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:48,400
but we can't talk about it now can we

1318
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:52,559
um so he was drawing all of those

1319
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:56,480
uh for lockheed and skunk works

1320
00:49:01,750 --> 00:49:00,160
and i think john lear's company and i'm

1321
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:01,760
not sure who else but

1322
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:04,640
there were quite a few and he stumbled

1323
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:05,359
upon

1324
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:09,040
a friend of his stumbled into an actual

1325
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:13,520
evening when they were showing the

1326
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:17,040
uh what did they called it a avf or a

1327
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:20,640
afv the aerial something vehicle i'm

1328
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,079
gonna have to look it up as well

1329
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:24,720
my brain is gone today i'm sorry folks

1330
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:26,160
and

1331
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:28,960
he stumbled upon it with a friend of his

1332
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:29,359
at an

1333
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:31,520
air show and there were like barbara

1334
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:32,559
boxer and

1335
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:35,280
other senators and all the way up to

1336
00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:37,200
generals and the president was the only

1337
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:37,520
one

1338
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:39,440
not in this building at the time and

1339
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:40,880
they were showing them

1340
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:44,480
this spacecraft that was engineered

1341
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:47,760
from a down craft plus the the

1342
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,520
stealth aircraft that they were showing

1343
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:51,440
them as well at the time

1344
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:53,520
and this was back in like you know the

1345
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:54,480
late 80s

1346
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:58,000
80s or early 90s and

1347
00:50:01,750 --> 00:49:59,359
i'm just trying to remember the whole

1348
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:01,760
story bottom line mark ends up

1349
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:04,079
drawing it uh from this guy's

1350
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:05,520
description

1351
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:08,640
and it's an absolute beautiful drawing

1352
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:11,520
beautiful blueprint drawing of this

1353
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:15,040
vehicle this re re-engineered spacecraft

1354
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:17,760
and it is it's identical to the one that

1355
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:19,920
dan burge was talking about

1356
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,040
uh so i you know i don't know i just i

1357
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:25,119
have days where i just go what

1358
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:28,480
so ron gardner is the man who actually

1359
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:30,160
got

1360
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:33,839
mark to sit and draw and talk to dan

1361
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:36,720
about the area that he was in so you can

1362
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:38,960
see that video up online and it

1363
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:40,880
i think there's a whole bunch of videos

1364
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:45,119
up on this website it's area51jrod.com

1365
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:48,720
so please go there and check them out

1366
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:49,040
and

1367
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:51,680
there's lots of videos there there is a

1368
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:52,400
video

1369
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:56,000
of let's see if i can find them all

1370
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:59,040
let's see radio show interviews stan

1371
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:01,040
burrish oh my gosh there's so much cool

1372
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:03,760
stuff here you guys this is amazing

1373
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,880
um who we are video store well let's

1374
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:08,000
just go see what we got

1375
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:09,839
i haven't been to the video store yet so

1376
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:11,680
let's check that out

1377
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buy area 51et featured videos

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on dvd oh interesting the danbury story

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director's cut

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oh that looks good that's the one i'm

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oh dear that looks really good

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okay so anyhow this is what i would like

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you guys to do

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get to the website see all the free

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videos that are up on youtube

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that are posted up here it's very

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important because

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you know there's an even a bill you

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house interview on here oh bill you

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okay you guys this is an amazing website

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you really do have to go check it out

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that's

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area area51jrod.com

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okay now i'm not going to go much more

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00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,839
into this because

1397
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:57,839
i've given you guys my opinion about dan

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00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:59,359
burrish and i want you to ask me

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00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:01,200
questions about the whole dan bursh

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00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:03,040
incident if you'd like i have no problem

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00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,079
with that

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00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,400
and i'm going to say that we're going to

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00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:08,240
spend the next hour

1404
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:11,280
probably for the first the next half

1405
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,200
hour we'll do questions and answers and

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00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:15,119
then i'm going to tell you guys a story

1407
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:17,200
in the last half hour about some of the

1408
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:18,800
crazy stuff that's happened to me in my

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00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:19,680
life

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00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,680
i think it's time to do that again i

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00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:23,280
haven't done it for a while i may go

1412
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:24,960
into it earlier we'll see we'll see how

1413
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:27,599
many questions we get from the chat room

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00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:30,720
okay so

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00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:34,079
in the meantime back to uh stan

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00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:37,200
before we close this hour out i

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00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:40,319
it's my opinion that stan romanek

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00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,359
is probably one of the most bravest guys

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00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:45,280
on this planet right now

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00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,440
um most of you haven't heard this part

1421
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:51,200
of the story but

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00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:54,000
the it all started back in i think

1423
00:53:02,309 --> 00:52:55,040
february

1424
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:02,319
he was arrested for trafficking child

1425
00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:03,680
pornography

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00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:06,160
and the story goes and i'm just going to

1427
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:07,920
do it in generalization because i'm not

1428
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:09,760
sure how much of this i can actually

1429
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,640
say there's a lot of information out on

1430
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:14,640
the web there's a lot of stories out

1431
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,480
there there's a lot of

1432
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:18,160
misconceptions about what really

1433
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:19,760
happened but i can tell you this

1434
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:22,079
i know for a fact that this is what

1435
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:23,599
happened because i've heard it from all

1436
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:24,880
the witnesses present

1437
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,319
and i heard it from several of them

1438
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,079
separately so it isn't like

1439
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:30,480
i'm making this up this is what truly

1440
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:31,760
happened

1441
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:33,680
um stan and lisa are in the house and

1442
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,520
they have friends there with them

1443
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:37,440
that are their roommates at the time so

1444
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:40,400
there's four people in the house

1445
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:43,839
what happens is the homeland security

1446
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,800
and the fbi now that i found that very

1447
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:48,640
disturbing that homeland security would

1448
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:50,000
have been involved in this in the first

1449
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:51,520
place i still am trying to wrap my head

1450
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,960
around that one

1451
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:54,960
break you know basically come to the

1452
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:57,119
door almost break it down

1453
00:54:00,870 --> 00:53:59,920
get in there and throw them not throw

1454
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:00,880
them all but

1455
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:02,880
forcibly sit them all on a couch in the

1456
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:04,559
living room

1457
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,319
and they won't let them get up talk or

1458
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:08,160
move for two and a half hours while they

1459
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:08,480
go

1460
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,960
into the room where the computer is and

1461
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:12,400
hang out in there for two and a half

1462
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:14,559
almost two and a half hours

1463
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,800
and that really disturbed me too because

1464
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,240
what are they doing in there for two and

1465
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:20,400
a half hours without them being present

1466
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:22,079
their lawyer being present somebody

1467
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:24,160
being present as to what they're putting

1468
00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:25,920
on the computer or taking off of the

1469
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:28,400
computer that's what i want to know

1470
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:31,440
then they take all the computers in the

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00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:33,280
house all the electronic devices and

1472
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:35,119
they take everything with them as their

1473
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:37,359
resting stand

1474
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:40,079
i found that disturbing too because lisa

1475
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:42,160
has to make a living and her computer's

1476
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,880
gone and

1477
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,640
and the people that are staying there

1478
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:46,079
they're they have nothing to do with

1479
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:47,520
stan and they have their own computer

1480
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:48,799
and it's taken and

1481
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:50,640
it's just ugly folks just really ugly

1482
00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:52,000
stuff happened

1483
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:54,400
and so he's arrested and what bothered

1484
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:57,440
me the most about the whole arrest

1485
00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:59,040
wasn't the fact that he was arrested it

1486
00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:00,640
wasn't the fact that they were trying to

1487
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:02,720
say he did child pornography it wasn't

1488
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:03,920
any of that

1489
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:06,000
what bothered me was that in all of the

1490
00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:07,200
articles or

1491
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:09,520
or a good portion of the articles which

1492
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,119
i looked up online

1493
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:13,200
they mentioned that he's a ufo

1494
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:15,520
researcher and that he has said that he

1495
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,079
has had

1496
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,400
seen aliens in his house or that there

1497
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:20,480
was a movie about aliens that he said he

1498
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:21,359
saw

1499
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,559
or you know just some catty remarks like

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00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:26,480
a whole paragraph full of them

1501
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,640
about the fact that this guy is a ufo

1502
00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:30,640
person so right there they're painting

1503
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,240
him as a nut job

1504
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:34,799
okay folks it's nine o'clock my time

1505
00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:36,720
here on the west coast and i've got to

1506
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:37,760
take a break

1507
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:39,680
so we'll be right back after these

1508
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:41,200
messages and i'll go on about my

1509
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:43,119
opinions about the stan roman act case

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you're locked into inception radio

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fenton i'm

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really happy to have you guys all with

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here with the the place with the most

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get one

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so get on there get on the website i

1587
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think it's the google store

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and at the app store for the iphones

1589
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wherever that may be because i don't

1590
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even know how to do that because i've

1591
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never owned an iphone so

1592
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but get to the um the app stores of your

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get to know when

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everybody is going to be on and what

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time they're on and what's happening

1598
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:27,599
okay everyone well i'm going to get back

1599
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:30,720
to the whole stan roman act story so

1600
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:33,520
from and this is from what i know so and

1601
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:34,480
this is

1602
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:37,520
from it i wasn't there when it happened

1603
00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:39,760
i can't say for sure that it went down

1604
00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:41,839
exactly like i've been told

1605
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:44,319
but i am friends with them i don't think

1606
00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:46,079
lisa would ever lie to me about

1607
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:49,119
the situation and how it unfolded um

1608
00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:50,640
i mean i know she wouldn't let's just

1609
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:52,480
but i don't think it i know she wouldn't

1610
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:54,400
and i don't know the other people

1611
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:57,440
there i just know them from having you

1612
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:58,000
know

1613
01:00:02,390 --> 00:59:59,520
been on the phone with them for a minute

1614
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:02,400
or two um so i can't i can't vouch for

1615
01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:03,920
them but i can vouch for stan

1616
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:06,720
and lisa and so we're at the point now

1617
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:08,160
where they're on the couch for

1618
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:11,520
two and a half hours-ish stan's arrested

1619
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:13,599
and then it gets hits the media

1620
01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:15,599
and the media makes him out to be a nut

1621
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:16,880
job ufo guy

1622
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:19,119
and they put the picture of him with his

1623
01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:20,400
hair all tousled

1624
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:22,079
and everything making him look even

1625
01:00:26,069 --> 01:00:24,240
weirder and stranger than

1626
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:26,079
you know fiction of course they want him

1627
01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:27,520
to look like he's crazy

1628
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:29,280
so that's what they do folks that's

1629
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:30,960
exactly what they do

1630
01:00:35,349 --> 01:00:32,960
they do everything they can to discredit

1631
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:35,359
you from the minute this all starts

1632
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:38,160
and then um all i can tell you about the

1633
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:38,960
cases

1634
01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:42,000
is that it's still going on and this is

1635
01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:42,799
the part that

1636
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:46,000
really makes me mad i start getting

1637
01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:48,480
smoke coming out of my ears is that i'm

1638
01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:49,599
sitting

1639
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:52,240
at an international ufo congress and

1640
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:54,000
people are picking up my flyer and

1641
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:56,000
they're seeing stan romanex face on

1642
01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:58,160
it and then they're saying oh he's a

1643
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,960
pedophile oh he's this oh he's that i'm

1644
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:02,079
like you've got

1645
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:03,760
i actually went up to four or five

1646
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:06,079
people because i'm not shy

1647
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:09,599
as many of you know and i said excuse me

1648
01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:11,119
do you know anything about what happened

1649
01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:12,799
to stan and they go no

1650
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:15,359
and well yeah they said yeah i know and

1651
01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:17,280
i go no i don't think you really know

1652
01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:17,920
and then i'd

1653
01:01:21,430 --> 01:01:20,400
you know go off into my tirade for until

1654
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:21,440
their eyes are

1655
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:23,359
glazing over and their skin's turning

1656
01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:24,960
green and they just want to get out of

1657
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,359
there

1658
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,359
but basically i told them that you know

1659
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:29,200
the truth as i know it and

1660
01:01:33,190 --> 01:01:31,760
as a ufo researcher in the community i

1661
01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:33,200
have been fooled before

1662
01:01:38,230 --> 01:01:36,000
folks but not to this extent it would

1663
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:38,240
take a whole lot to get me to the point

1664
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:39,280
where i could say

1665
01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:41,920
man i was really wrong about this case i

1666
01:01:44,870 --> 01:01:44,000
really absolutely believe in stan and

1667
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:44,880
lisa

1668
01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:46,960
so anyhow back to international ufo

1669
01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:47,920
congress

1670
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:49,760
people are brainwashed immediately by

1671
01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:51,200
what they see in the media and what

1672
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:53,359
everybody gossips about it's never about

1673
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:55,200
the truth it's always about what they

1674
01:01:59,589 --> 01:01:57,440
want you to think the truth is and i

1675
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:59,599
think people need to realize that that's

1676
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:00,960
what's going on here

1677
01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:03,359
it's another smoke and mirrors thing of

1678
01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:04,079
this guy

1679
01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:07,680
has some amazing stuff going on and

1680
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:09,599
i don't know if any of you have rented

1681
01:02:14,710 --> 01:02:11,760
his movie yet but if you haven't

1682
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:14,720
you need to because it will blow your

1683
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:15,680
mind

1684
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:19,920
times i paid 4.99

1685
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:21,680
three times i could have just owned it

1686
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:24,720
by now but no i kept paying 4.99 to rent

1687
01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:25,599
it

1688
01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:32,000
that alien in the window i believe

1689
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:34,880
is absolutely real um now there's a

1690
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:36,480
slight possibility it could have been

1691
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:37,839
fake but i don't think so

1692
01:02:41,829 --> 01:02:40,319
i mean i really really don't there's

1693
01:02:43,829 --> 01:02:41,839
another alien

1694
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:43,839
uh that i probably shouldn't tell you

1695
01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:45,280
guys about you need to watch it for

1696
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:45,920
yourself

1697
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:47,680
you need to decide if that's a real

1698
01:02:51,430 --> 01:02:49,680
alien or not i don't know

1699
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:51,440
it's in the plate glass window on the

1700
01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,359
patio and you guys will know for what

1701
01:02:57,990 --> 01:02:55,359
i'm talking about when you get there

1702
01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:58,000
and it's up to you i have never seen a

1703
01:03:02,309 --> 01:02:59,839
gray alien i've never seen an

1704
01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:02,319
alien like this one on the patio so i

1705
01:03:06,549 --> 01:03:02,880
don't

1706
01:03:09,430 --> 01:03:06,559
know what i'm looking at um

1707
01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:09,440
it's just it's so hard to to figure it

1708
01:03:13,349 --> 01:03:10,000
out

1709
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:13,359
whether they're real or not but i what

1710
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:15,280
amazes me more than the fact that

1711
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:16,880
they're real is that they even caught

1712
01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:18,240
them on camera

1713
01:03:21,990 --> 01:03:20,160
and then people go into this whole thing

1714
01:03:24,069 --> 01:03:22,000
if all it was you know

1715
01:03:25,750 --> 01:03:24,079
it was a special effects company that

1716
01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:25,760
made it for them and you know all this

1717
01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:27,440
stuff and you guys when you look at that

1718
01:03:30,789 --> 01:03:29,200
you can tell there's no special effects

1719
01:03:33,109 --> 01:03:30,799
these are just regular old black and

1720
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:33,119
white security cameras

1721
01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:34,720
i just really don't think that there's

1722
01:03:38,950 --> 01:03:37,119
any special effects involved in this

1723
01:03:40,789 --> 01:03:38,960
but you know like i said i've been

1724
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:40,799
fooled there's a one percent chance that

1725
01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:41,359
i'm being

1726
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:44,720
a absolute ridiculous person here but

1727
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:47,599
i think i'm right i just my gut feeling

1728
01:03:50,710 --> 01:03:49,599
says that these things are real and he's

1729
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:50,720
right

1730
01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:53,200
and the part that really bothered me the

1731
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:55,200
most about all this was before

1732
01:04:01,430 --> 01:03:58,720
stan got arrested he and i were talking

1733
01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:01,440
it was in it was uh november no it was

1734
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:02,880
october

1735
01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:06,240
of 2013.

1736
01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:09,359
his movie was read scheduled to

1737
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:12,559
uh premiere in florida and he was

1738
01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:15,599
scheduled to be at my ufo conference

1739
01:04:21,589 --> 01:04:18,960
in that year that was 13

1740
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:21,599
and he couldn't do it because the people

1741
01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:23,760
now this is another thing that really is

1742
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:25,520
intriguing now

1743
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:28,000
the people that made the movie moved his

1744
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:29,520
date of his premiere

1745
01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:31,280
to right around when he was supposed to

1746
01:04:35,349 --> 01:04:33,440
appear at ufo con

1747
01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:35,359
and it didn't even strike me until a few

1748
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:37,599
weeks ago as to

1749
01:04:41,589 --> 01:04:40,400
why they may have done that they they

1750
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:41,599
premiered his movie

1751
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:44,559
at a at an obscure film festival in

1752
01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:45,760
florida

1753
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:49,119
in front of about 30 people and they

1754
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:51,119
could have premiered it at my conference

1755
01:04:54,710 --> 01:04:53,200
with over 200 people

1756
01:04:56,309 --> 01:04:54,720
and it would have been in the ufo

1757
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:56,319
community and i think it would have

1758
01:04:59,029 --> 01:04:58,400
gotten a lot more publicity and i was

1759
01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:59,039
thinking

1760
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:01,280
you know later i thought well what was

1761
01:05:04,630 --> 01:05:02,880
that all about but

1762
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:04,640
i didn't say anything at the time stan

1763
01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:06,880
and lisa had to bow out and

1764
01:05:10,789 --> 01:05:08,960
they said we'll do it next year and that

1765
01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:10,799
was where we left it and i was fine with

1766
01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:11,760
that because

1767
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:13,680
i had plenty of people for that year and

1768
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:15,680
everything was good

1769
01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:18,400
so looking back on it now i'm starting

1770
01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:19,920
to wonder if that wasn't

1771
01:05:24,069 --> 01:05:22,880
uh planted or a setup or something going

1772
01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:24,079
on there so

1773
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:26,960
anyhow so okay where am i in the story

1774
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:28,960
gosh i'm getting so excited about

1775
01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:30,400
putting all these pieces together and

1776
01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:32,160
forgetting where i'm at so

1777
01:05:38,549 --> 01:05:35,520
this is uh back in 2013

1778
01:05:40,470 --> 01:05:38,559
they can't be at my conference um

1779
01:05:42,549 --> 01:05:40,480
everything's fine

1780
01:05:43,589 --> 01:05:42,559
and i'm trying to think what my point

1781
01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:43,599
was to this

1782
01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:47,680
oh shoot i forgot well anyhow so

1783
01:05:53,589 --> 01:05:50,960
then february of 2013 it

1784
01:05:55,029 --> 01:05:53,599
so it must yeah it was february of 13 so

1785
01:05:58,710 --> 01:05:55,039
that must have been 12.

1786
01:06:01,029 --> 01:05:58,720
so anyhow bottom line it's february 13

1787
01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:01,039
and then stan gets arrested and i call

1788
01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:02,960
him and i get all the scoop about that

1789
01:06:06,309 --> 01:06:03,280
oh

1790
01:06:08,309 --> 01:06:06,319
i know what it was i remember now he's

1791
01:06:10,789 --> 01:06:08,319
going off to do the premiere of the

1792
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:10,799
movie and he says to me lorian

1793
01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:12,799
i got a phone call and i think he's told

1794
01:06:15,910 --> 01:06:14,720
this in public oh please stand forgive

1795
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:15,920
me if i'm saying something i'm not

1796
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:18,000
supposed to say please please

1797
01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:21,680
um he said i was told i got a phone call

1798
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:23,359
and i was told the film would never see

1799
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:25,440
the light of day

1800
01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:27,119
and i think he said this in public and

1801
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:29,039
please forgive me stan if i if i'm

1802
01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:31,200
spilling the beans here but

1803
01:06:35,349 --> 01:06:33,280
i thought that was very telling when he

1804
01:06:37,190 --> 01:06:35,359
told me that in october

1805
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:37,200
you know right before the movie was

1806
01:06:40,470 --> 01:06:38,640
supposed to premiere

1807
01:06:41,750 --> 01:06:40,480
and i thought well that's odd why would

1808
01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:41,760
they tell him that

1809
01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:44,319
and you know it's just strange and the

1810
01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:46,480
movie is premiering it's premiering in

1811
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:49,200
in florida in november but it never went

1812
01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:51,280
anywhere after that it was like at that

1813
01:06:54,549 --> 01:06:52,240
movie

1814
01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:54,559
house it won a few awards and then it

1815
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,359
was gone

1816
01:06:58,950 --> 01:06:57,520
and no one ever saw it again i mean it's

1817
01:07:01,190 --> 01:06:58,960
just gone it's like

1818
01:07:02,950 --> 01:07:01,200
nobody knows about it even in the ufo

1819
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:02,960
community they don't know about it

1820
01:07:07,109 --> 01:07:05,359
and that really it bothers me just you

1821
01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:07,119
know it's just like it was squelched and

1822
01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:09,200
i have no idea how people are squelching

1823
01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:11,359
it so badly so easily

1824
01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:13,440
you know you'd think it would be the top

1825
01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:15,440
banner at any ufo

1826
01:07:20,069 --> 01:07:18,160
conference in the in the world you know

1827
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:20,079
stan romanek in a movie where you can

1828
01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:22,240
actually see aliens you know and you can

1829
01:07:26,549 --> 01:07:22,720
see

1830
01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:26,559
strangeness going on you think it'd be

1831
01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:28,160
the top movie on

1832
01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:31,520
everybody's lips but no not not a peep

1833
01:07:35,190 --> 01:07:33,280
about it anywhere so that kind of

1834
01:07:37,349 --> 01:07:35,200
bothered me for that whole year after

1835
01:07:38,549 --> 01:07:37,359
the movie premiered i was thinking gosh

1836
01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:38,559
does anybody know about it you know and

1837
01:07:41,349 --> 01:07:40,480
i went i paid my money for it and saw it

1838
01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:41,359
right away

1839
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:44,240
it's very excited for them and then

1840
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:45,839
february comes around and he gets

1841
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:47,680
arrested

1842
01:07:52,870 --> 01:07:50,880
and boy i tell you it was

1843
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:52,880
it was the talk of international ufo

1844
01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:54,400
congress while was happening i didn't

1845
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:55,440
hear about it till

1846
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:57,920
just the day i was leaving so i i didn't

1847
01:08:01,029 --> 01:07:59,440
pay much attention to

1848
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:01,039
what was happening and what was being

1849
01:08:06,069 --> 01:08:02,880
said but when i got a hold of stan

1850
01:08:08,069 --> 01:08:06,079
later a few months later uh

1851
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:08,079
he basically said yeah it's been

1852
01:08:12,069 --> 01:08:10,400
horrific you told me some details he

1853
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:12,079
i can tell you guys about sitting on the

1854
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:13,520
couch for two and a half hours

1855
01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:16,960
um that's pretty much well known i think

1856
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:19,520
um they've just had a rough time with

1857
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:20,880
this whole thing and it

1858
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:23,279
and the problem is folks that he's

1859
01:08:27,349 --> 01:08:25,279
already convicted pretty much

1860
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:27,359
by the the poor guy who's being their

1861
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:29,359
public defender you know he's trying to

1862
01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:30,000
get him

1863
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:32,080
obviously i don't know this for a fact i

1864
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:34,000
haven't asked him because i'm trying not

1865
01:08:37,990 --> 01:08:35,440
to stay

1866
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:38,000
on you know i try not to talk about that

1867
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:39,600
when i call stan i talk about

1868
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:41,440
everything but the court case because i

1869
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:43,199
don't want to know and i don't think

1870
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:44,960
they want me to know because i have a

1871
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:46,960
big mouth on my radio show

1872
01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:48,640
so i don't blame them for not telling me

1873
01:08:52,630 --> 01:08:50,560
anything and i've told them not to tell

1874
01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:52,640
me anything up for that exact reason

1875
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:54,080
because i just don't want to get up here

1876
01:08:56,789 --> 01:08:55,920
and and say something i'm not supposed

1877
01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:56,799
to

1878
01:09:01,990 --> 01:09:00,719
but yeah i mean it's just it's so crazy

1879
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:02,000
what's happening to them

1880
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:05,520
and in the movie this is the part that i

1881
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:06,080
think

1882
01:09:15,110 --> 01:09:11,600
got to see this movie because

1883
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:15,120
as i was watching it the very first time

1884
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:16,080
i watched it

1885
01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:20,319
i realized that it isn't probably

1886
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:22,880
the aliens that's the problem with this

1887
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:23,759
movie

1888
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:26,640
i think it goes much deeper than that i

1889
01:09:30,149 --> 01:09:26,960
think

1890
01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:30,159
stan caught those dark shadow beans

1891
01:09:34,550 --> 01:09:32,560
on his camera and there's quite a few of

1892
01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:34,560
them if there's three or four instances

1893
01:09:38,950 --> 01:09:35,040
where they

1894
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:38,960
show that going on in the movie

1895
01:09:44,470 --> 01:09:42,560
and i i really think

1896
01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:44,480
that that is the reason the movie is

1897
01:09:47,189 --> 01:09:46,000
never going to see the light of day

1898
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:47,199
quote unquote

1899
01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:50,880
and i believe that those shadow beings

1900
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:53,279
are not what people want to think they

1901
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:56,080
are i think and this is just my opinion

1902
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:58,159
this has nothing to do with stan or lisa

1903
01:10:02,390 --> 01:09:59,520
or anybody else this is

1904
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:02,400
lorien's opinion and i've never even

1905
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:05,040
talked to stan about this

1906
01:10:09,669 --> 01:10:07,440
i believe that those dark shadow beans

1907
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:09,679
that are running through stan's house

1908
01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:11,440
and going through walls and whatever

1909
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:13,600
they're doing i believe they're part of

1910
01:10:19,350 --> 01:10:15,280
the mind control projects

1911
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:19,360
i believe they are assassins and killers

1912
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:22,880
in an astral dimension sent

1913
01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:25,360
through these mind control projects and

1914
01:10:30,790 --> 01:10:27,360
i believe that they're keeping tabs

1915
01:10:32,390 --> 01:10:30,800
on him in that way and that's how they

1916
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:32,400
monitor him

1917
01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:35,040
and i think stan has been just lucky

1918
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:36,400
enough to capture them

1919
01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:38,560
on film and i think the government the

1920
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:40,960
black ops military

1921
01:10:45,669 --> 01:10:43,440
alien agenda government that are down on

1922
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:45,679
those underground bases somewhere

1923
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:47,840
are just freaking out that he was able

1924
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:49,920
to actually capture those

1925
01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:53,760
so um that's my opinion folks i've heard

1926
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:55,520
a lot of things over the years

1927
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:58,000
the men who stare at goats isn't as

1928
01:11:02,229 --> 01:10:59,199
crazy as it might

1929
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:02,239
seem to be those people that

1930
01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:05,280
were supposedly doing major remote

1931
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:06,000
viewing

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01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:08,400
and were supposed to be trying to kill

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01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:09,120
people

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01:11:12,149 --> 01:11:11,679
on in this dimension with their mind

1935
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:12,159
well

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01:11:16,630 --> 01:11:15,280
i have it under good authority they did

1937
01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:16,640
accomplish that but they don't

1938
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:19,280
accomplish it in 3d reality they do it

1939
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:20,960
in another dimension

1940
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:23,920
space whether it be a dream space or out

1941
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:26,480
of their body space or another dimension

1942
01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:26,960
space

1943
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:29,440
i don't know but i think that's what the

1944
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:31,440
dark shadow people are

1945
01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:33,600
and i you know and and they could be

1946
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:34,560
ghosts too

1947
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:37,840
so that's just my feeling on it but

1948
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:40,239
that's my opinion and you know i may be

1949
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:41,840
spilling the beans right now and there

1950
01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:42,320
may be

1951
01:11:45,350 --> 01:11:44,159
dark shadow people in my house tonight i

1952
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:45,360
don't know but

1953
01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:47,360
that's kind of what i think is going on

1954
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:48,960
so i just thought i'd share that with

1955
01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:50,800
you guys

1956
01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:53,760
so anyhow back to stan and lisa i think

1957
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:55,520
that's why they're being attacked and i

1958
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:56,800
haven't even told them yet

1959
01:12:00,470 --> 01:11:58,960
and i i'm going to save that for another

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01:12:02,470 --> 01:12:00,480
day another time

1961
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:02,480
and my opinion about the whole thing is

1962
01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:03,920
just simply that

1963
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:07,040
so there we go okay

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01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:10,239
up until the next uh 15 10 15

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01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:11,920
20 minutes i'm going to take questions

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01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:13,360
from you guys

1967
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:17,040
so let's see what we got here for me

1968
01:12:22,149 --> 01:12:20,080
it says lorian concerning this the

1969
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:22,159
circulating picture of one of stan's

1970
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:23,840
hybrid children

1971
01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:26,880
showing up at the end of his lectures

1972
01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:29,440
what more do we know about the hybrid ie

1973
01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:30,640
interaction with

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01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:34,320
other with other attendees

1975
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:36,960
oh you know that's a darn good question

1976
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:38,480
because i was actually

1977
01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:42,320
there at one at that event i'm pretty

1978
01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:44,320
sure that was an international ufo

1979
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:47,440
congress 2013

1980
01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:50,560
and stan was asked to fill in for

1981
01:12:54,709 --> 01:12:51,280
somebody

1982
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:54,719
and one of those kids showed up

1983
01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:57,760
and i don't know if there was any

1984
01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:58,640
interaction

1985
01:13:02,550 --> 01:13:00,400
and i'll tell you something else i don't

1986
01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:02,560
know about that i'm wondering about

1987
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:04,320
about that picture

1988
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:06,960
one of the reasons i think that picture

1989
01:13:12,390 --> 01:13:07,760
was

1990
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:12,400
actually see this person for what she

1991
01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:15,040
is because if i remember correctly and

1992
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:16,480
you guys are going to have to correct me

1993
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:18,159
on this in the chat room

1994
01:13:22,149 --> 01:13:19,840
wasn't that the picture where she looks

1995
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:22,159
kind of odd in her eyebrows or

1996
01:13:25,990 --> 01:13:24,480
her eye ridges her eyebrow ridges are

1997
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:26,000
bigger and her

1998
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:29,040
her ears kind of pointy and long and i

1999
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,960
she just didn't look right she looked

2000
01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:32,640
like an alien

2001
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:35,679
type of human if that is a picture i'm

2002
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:36,640
thinking of

2003
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:39,120
i don't think that she looked like that

2004
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:40,320
to anybody else

2005
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:43,600
in the room i think that that is one of

2006
01:13:45,990 --> 01:13:45,520
those pictures that was taken of her

2007
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:46,000
real

2008
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:48,640
form through digital media and she

2009
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:50,560
probably just looked like a normal girl

2010
01:13:55,669 --> 01:13:52,400
but to stan

2011
01:13:57,430 --> 01:13:55,679
she probably looked like that i mean

2012
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:57,440
come on folks you got to think about

2013
01:14:03,189 --> 01:14:00,159
this they can make us think that we're

2014
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:03,199
we're having sex with fabio if we wanted

2015
01:14:08,709 --> 01:14:04,640
to

2016
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:08,719
i mean mind control with an alien agenda

2017
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:10,560
behind it or an alien agenda

2018
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:13,600
using mind control folks they can make

2019
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:14,320
anybody

2020
01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:16,400
see anything do anything they can block

2021
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:18,159
your memory they can make you think it's

2022
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:20,719
a chimpanzee sitting in the front row

2023
01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:23,520
but in this case i actually believe that

2024
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:24,800
they allowed stan

2025
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:28,239
to see the real form and i believe lisa

2026
01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:30,480
was taking pictures and she was able to

2027
01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:31,760
take a picture of it

2028
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:35,120
i think it allowed that and i believe

2029
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:37,120
that the rest of the people in the room

2030
01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:39,360
believe me your room full of ufo

2031
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:40,719
enthusiasts and they're not going to

2032
01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:42,640
notice that somebody looks like an alien

2033
01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:43,600
come on

2034
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:45,760
or if they did they'd at least walk up

2035
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:47,520
and say that's a great costume where did

2036
01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:48,239
you get it

2037
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:50,960
i mean it wouldn't be like she could

2038
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:52,480
just be sitting there looking

2039
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:54,719
bizarre and nobody would say anything at

2040
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:56,159
least i would

2041
01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:59,120
um and i know about 50 or 60 people

2042
01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:00,960
intimately that go to that conference

2043
01:15:03,590 --> 01:15:02,320
and i can tell you right now if they'd

2044
01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:03,600
seen her they would have all been

2045
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:05,040
running up to her to

2046
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:07,679
to talk to her they are not shy people

2047
01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:08,400
unlike

2048
01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:10,719
just like myself you know there's very

2049
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:12,239
few people at these conferences that

2050
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:14,320
won't approach somebody who looks odd

2051
01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:18,400
yeah i mean really so um i think

2052
01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:20,080
that's my opinion of what happened i

2053
01:15:23,030 --> 01:15:22,239
haven't talked to stan or lisa about it

2054
01:15:25,750 --> 01:15:23,040
yet at all

2055
01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:25,760
either and i think a lot of the things

2056
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:26,719
that they've seen

2057
01:15:31,189 --> 01:15:30,239
only they can see or other contactees

2058
01:15:34,630 --> 01:15:31,199
that are with them

2059
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:34,640
can see i really doubt that if you and i

2060
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:36,400
were sitting in the audience and even

2061
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:38,239
sitting maybe right next to her

2062
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:39,840
would we have been able to see that

2063
01:15:43,430 --> 01:15:41,600
unless maybe out of the corner where i

2064
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:43,440
were catching something you know

2065
01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:46,320
i mean i actually saw one of my super

2066
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:47,679
soldier buddies

2067
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:50,000
start to transform into a reptilian

2068
01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:51,280
right before my eyes

2069
01:15:54,390 --> 01:15:53,280
for a fraction of a second at one point

2070
01:15:55,830 --> 01:15:54,400
and i thought i was

2071
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:55,840
seeing things i thought i was making

2072
01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:57,760
myself see and i realized later i

2073
01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:59,120
thought man maybe i'm actually seeing

2074
01:16:05,350 --> 01:16:01,679
the truth for once who knows

2075
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:05,360
so i don't know i just don't know

2076
01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:06,080
anymore

2077
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:08,800
it's a very bizarre world out there so

2078
01:16:13,030 --> 01:16:10,880
that's my answer to that question

2079
01:16:14,870 --> 01:16:13,040
and uh as far as interacting with the

2080
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:14,880
other attendees well like i said there's

2081
01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:16,800
a gazillion of those people out there

2082
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:18,000
that would have

2083
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:21,040
would have been there for that let's see

2084
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:24,960
um let's see what's going on

2085
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:27,040
okay i'm gonna go back to the chat room

2086
01:16:32,830 --> 01:16:28,800
right now and see if anybody's got any

2087
01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:32,840
comments or questions

2088
01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:36,800
uh let's see and everybody boy i sure

2089
01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:38,719
stirred up a hornet's nest in here i can

2090
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:44,310
uh let's see red show said stan romanek

2091
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:46,080
had a very similar story to tell about

2092
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:46,480
the j

2093
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:49,280
rods as time travelers which kind of

2094
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:50,400
follows the br

2095
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:52,560
what burst said only claims to have been

2096
01:16:55,990 --> 01:16:54,320
unaware of this at the time of writing

2097
01:16:58,790 --> 01:16:56,000
his book and yeah you know that's

2098
01:17:00,870 --> 01:16:58,800
interesting redshift because

2099
01:17:02,709 --> 01:17:00,880
stan and i have actually had a couple of

2100
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:02,719
talks about time travel

2101
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:06,080
and time travel you know

2102
01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:09,199
the the older i get and the the and i

2103
01:17:13,030 --> 01:17:11,040
say the stupider i get because i'm not

2104
01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:13,040
getting that much wiser i gotta say

2105
01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:13,920
folks

2106
01:17:18,550 --> 01:17:16,480
i'm forgetting more than i knew you know

2107
01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:18,560
15 years ago it's all going out of my

2108
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:18,960
head

2109
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:22,400
but what i would say about that is

2110
01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:25,440
i have really had some really bizarre

2111
01:17:29,590 --> 01:17:27,520
experiences happen to me in my life

2112
01:17:31,270 --> 01:17:29,600
and one of the ones that you guys all

2113
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:31,280
know about that i've told you is the

2114
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:32,640
rabbit story

2115
01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:35,040
about how i came home as a child wanting

2116
01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:37,199
a rabbit there's a rabbit there

2117
01:17:40,709 --> 01:17:39,600
and i used to think oh an angel put it

2118
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:40,719
there or

2119
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:45,360
it and the

2120
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:47,840
the god put it there whatever the god is

2121
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:49,520
out there you know for years and years

2122
01:17:53,110 --> 01:17:51,440
and years i always thought this

2123
01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:53,120
you know that my angel i always thought

2124
01:17:58,229 --> 01:17:55,920
it was my angels looking out for me

2125
01:17:59,590 --> 01:17:58,239
up until about six months ago and then

2126
01:18:03,430 --> 01:17:59,600
six months ago

2127
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:03,440
i was sitting here going time travel is

2128
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:05,040
such an amazing thing

2129
01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:08,400
and i wonder if and i you guys are gonna

2130
01:18:10,709 --> 01:18:09,840
love this i'm gonna tell you something

2131
01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:10,719
that happened to me

2132
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:13,520
i'm gonna start a story for you uh when

2133
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:15,520
i was about 23 years old

2134
01:18:20,390 --> 01:18:18,800
i had a a psychic reading by somebody

2135
01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:20,400
and she said to me and this

2136
01:18:24,790 --> 01:18:22,800
i thought she was cracked but she said

2137
01:18:26,550 --> 01:18:24,800
some amazing things and guess what

2138
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:26,560
they've all come true

2139
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:28,320
that's what scares me about this

2140
01:18:32,229 --> 01:18:30,239
prediction and i will tell it to you

2141
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:32,239
she said besides the fact that i would

2142
01:18:34,470 --> 01:18:33,760
be talking in front of hundreds of

2143
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:34,480
people

2144
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:36,960
and i would be or actually she said

2145
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:38,400
thousands of people

2146
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:40,159
and now at conferences i'm speaking in

2147
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:41,679
front of hundreds and i'm talking to

2148
01:18:45,110 --> 01:18:42,880
thousands on the radio

2149
01:18:46,870 --> 01:18:45,120
and all this and i here i am a lady who

2150
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:46,880
had a speech impediment and can barely

2151
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:48,239
talk as it is

2152
01:18:51,669 --> 01:18:50,000
and i'm like are you kidding me i looked

2153
01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:51,679
at her like she was absolutely

2154
01:18:55,990 --> 01:18:53,679
out of her mind at the time i was a

2155
01:18:58,709 --> 01:18:56,000
professional dancer back then

2156
01:18:59,750 --> 01:18:58,719
uh we didn't speak on stage thank god

2157
01:19:02,630 --> 01:18:59,760
for that

2158
01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:02,640
and i just said you know what i i really

2159
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:04,080
thought she was cracked you guys i

2160
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:05,760
really did but everything

2161
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:07,600
this woman has ever said to me and i

2162
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:10,000
wrote it all down i've kept it i'm i'm

2163
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:13,120
57 i did this when i was 23 i still have

2164
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:15,199
it i know exactly what she said

2165
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:16,960
and it's all coming true and she said

2166
01:19:20,709 --> 01:19:18,880
the weirdest thing to me

2167
01:19:22,229 --> 01:19:20,719
she said lorien you're going to be one

2168
01:19:24,310 --> 01:19:22,239
of the few people

2169
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:24,320
in our lifetime that is going to be able

2170
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:25,600
to time travel

2171
01:19:28,950 --> 01:19:28,000
and i said what i mean i literally

2172
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:28,960
looked at her i said

2173
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:30,880
oh okay you know i was really i was

2174
01:19:35,350 --> 01:19:32,800
ready to laugh at this woman

2175
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:35,360
she goes no i'm serious she says you are

2176
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:37,360
going to be able to transcend

2177
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:40,000
time as we as we know it you'll be a

2178
01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:42,400
time traveler and i said you're nuts

2179
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:44,400
i really did i said you're kind of nuts

2180
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:45,679
i just i was like

2181
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:48,400
what this girl's nuts but the more i

2182
01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:50,480
thought about it i thought

2183
01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:52,480
this is really strange about six months

2184
01:19:56,870 --> 01:19:54,000
ago i just

2185
01:19:58,709 --> 01:19:56,880
was thinking maybe it's me with that

2186
01:19:59,830 --> 01:19:58,719
weird lady telling me i'm going to time

2187
01:20:01,350 --> 01:19:59,840
travel in some way now

2188
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:01,360
when she says time travel she didn't say

2189
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:03,040
i was physically going to time travel

2190
01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:03,520
but she

2191
01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:05,360
says i was going to be a time traveler i

2192
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:06,960
was like okay right

2193
01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:09,440
but maybe if i took her at her word

2194
01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:11,440
about this

2195
01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:14,000
maybe i put that rabbit there in the

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future

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01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:17,040
maybe i'm like a 90 year old lady and i

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01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:18,880
go back in time and i put that rabbit

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01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:20,639
there so that i wouldn't end up doing

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01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:21,360
what i do

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01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:23,440
now because if that rabbit experience

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01:20:28,950 --> 01:20:25,440
had never happened to me

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01:20:30,790 --> 01:20:28,960
back in you know the early 60s i would

2204
01:20:31,510 --> 01:20:30,800
never be here right now talking to you

2205
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:31,520
guys

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01:20:36,790 --> 01:20:34,480
so it's very interesting what stepping

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01:20:37,830 --> 01:20:36,800
stones we take to get to where we gotta

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01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:37,840
go

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01:20:41,110 --> 01:20:40,719
and it's just always amazed me about

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01:20:42,870 --> 01:20:41,120
that

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01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:42,880
but up until six months ago i would

2212
01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:44,560
never thought about it but you never

2213
01:20:46,629 --> 01:20:45,040
know

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01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:46,639
baby i'm the one who went got that

2215
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:48,320
rabbit and put it there in the first

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01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:50,159
place

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01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:52,080
so yeah just thought i'd let you guys

2218
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:54,880
know oh truthfunders is online

2219
01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:00,870
well i hope you guys are listening to

2220
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:02,320
truth funders before

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01:21:06,310 --> 01:21:04,560
uh the california mufon radio show with

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01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:06,320
my good buddy mark schwartz

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01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:07,920
hey mark you want to come on the air

2224
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:09,760
with me in the next half hour i'm just

2225
01:21:13,750 --> 01:21:11,440
going to throw that out to you because

2226
01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:13,760
uh i'm just sitting here you know i was

2227
01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:16,159
going to start telling stories again but

2228
01:21:19,830 --> 01:21:17,520
i'm not sure if everybody's that

2229
01:21:21,350 --> 01:21:19,840
interested in my stories but

2230
01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:21,360
i'd love to have you on because you're

2231
01:21:25,430 --> 01:21:23,199
going to be at ufo con so i'd love to

2232
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:25,440
have you on so let me know if you can

2233
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:28,480
um anyhow so that's a thought you guys

2234
01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:30,400
so maybe this woman isn't as nuts as i

2235
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:30,800
think

2236
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:34,000
maybe now here's my thought on it maybe

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01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:34,480
i

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01:21:59,510 --> 01:21:56,400
was

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01:22:02,149 --> 01:21:59,520
and maybe that's how it got there

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01:22:04,470 --> 01:22:02,159
maybe that's the trick maybe you have to

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01:22:05,590 --> 01:22:04,480
go into an altered state into another

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01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:05,600
dimension

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01:22:08,790 --> 01:22:08,080
now having said that there is a guy

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01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:08,800
named dan

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01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:10,960
bolan and i don't know if you guys can

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01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:11,840
find him but

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01:22:19,709 --> 01:22:15,280
you can find him on super soldier talk

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01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:19,719
by james rank and his name is dan bolin

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01:22:23,430 --> 01:22:22,719
b-o-l-l-y-n i believe i could be wrong

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01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:23,440
but

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01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:26,560
i hope you guys can find it he has

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01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:30,400
a video of him coming through a portal

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01:22:35,189 --> 01:22:32,800
and traveling through time and he says

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01:22:39,030 --> 01:22:35,199
they mastered it ages ago and it's

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01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:39,040
very easy to do so there you are

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01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:41,280
so check that out sometime now i'm not

2257
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:43,760
saying it's real i'm not saying he did

2258
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:46,000
i'm not saying anything but it's very

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01:22:49,270 --> 01:22:47,360
intriguing

2260
01:22:51,430 --> 01:22:49,280
and he is one of these kind of super

2261
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:51,440
soldier kind of characters so who knows

2262
01:22:55,270 --> 01:22:52,159
what's going

2263
01:22:57,430 --> 01:22:55,280
on and uh very good stuff

2264
01:22:59,350 --> 01:22:57,440
so okay so it looks like truthfunders

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01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:59,360
might uh mark's gonna come on with this

2266
01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:00,719
here for a little bit

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01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:03,440
uh at the last part of the show and if

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01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:04,480
you guys like

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01:23:07,910 --> 01:23:06,560
uh go ahead and put any questions you

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01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:07,920
have for me

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01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:10,480
in the chat and i will try to answer

2272
01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:12,639
anything you want me to answer

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01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:16,080
about me or what i do or my life or you

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01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:17,040
have ocon

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01:23:22,709 --> 01:23:20,320
or the mind control summits or mufon

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01:23:24,070 --> 01:23:22,719
or anything you want that would be

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01:23:26,709 --> 01:23:24,080
wonderful

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01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:26,719
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welcome back everyone to the california

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museum radio show i'm your host lorian

2356
01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:38,159
fenton

2357
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:39,679
and i'm so glad you guys are still

2358
01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:41,840
hanging in here with me tonight boy it's

2359
01:26:45,669 --> 01:26:43,760
been a wild ride like i said if i known

2360
01:26:46,629 --> 01:26:45,679
i was going to be alone tonight i would

2361
01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:46,639
have

2362
01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:49,440
uh just done so much more research and

2363
01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:51,600
had all kinds of fun topics for you guys

2364
01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:53,440
but i just didn't know and i was very

2365
01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:54,880
worried about ron

2366
01:26:57,910 --> 01:26:56,400
i don't know if i mentioned this at the

2367
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:57,920
beginning of the show but he is very

2368
01:27:00,629 --> 01:26:58,800
very ill

2369
01:27:01,910 --> 01:27:00,639
and we're going to be lucky if i can get

2370
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:01,920
a recording with him

2371
01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:04,800
before he passes to the other side but

2372
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:06,480
um that's what i'm going to try to do

2373
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:08,560
is mj's suggestion and i'm going to take

2374
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:09,520
care of it

2375
01:27:13,590 --> 01:27:12,800
as soon as possible so with me now for a

2376
01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:13,600
few minutes

2377
01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:16,000
is my good friend mark schwartz and mark

2378
01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:18,400
you guys have a radio show here at iran

2379
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:19,520
now don't you

2380
01:27:23,350 --> 01:27:21,840
we do we were on uh earlier today in

2381
01:27:26,870 --> 01:27:23,360
fact

2382
01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:26,880
six o'clock to 7 30. it's so much fun i

2383
01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:28,080
can't even begin to

2384
01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:30,719
uh describe how what a good time art and

2385
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:31,679
i are having doing

2386
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:34,800
doing the show now art's name is art

2387
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:42,149
four letter last name um he's really

2388
01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:43,440
great he

2389
01:27:47,110 --> 01:27:46,400
i actually got to know him via the

2390
01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:47,120
internet

2391
01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:50,080
we originally met we worked on projects

2392
01:27:54,629 --> 01:27:51,440
together when i was

2393
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:54,639
a producer for a company called rooftop

2394
01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:55,360
which has

2395
01:27:58,870 --> 01:27:57,840
since been acquired by amazon and

2396
01:28:02,390 --> 01:27:58,880
audible

2397
01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:02,400
but um i was doing online video content

2398
01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:04,800
and creating tv shows is pretty cool i

2399
01:28:10,470 --> 01:28:06,480
was like directing

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01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:10,480
seth green and um a couple of cool

2401
01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:13,360
cool peeps out out there in la and

2402
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:15,040
making these shows and

2403
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:18,400
um i was listening to arts

2404
01:28:22,229 --> 01:28:21,600
uh he had a radio show he was on a radio

2405
01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:22,239
show a

2406
01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:24,000
pretty well-known radio show called the

2407
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:25,280
tom leica show

2408
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:27,920
he was the producer there and then he

2409
01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:29,520
also

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01:28:34,629 --> 01:28:32,639
was producing a a music station

2411
01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:34,639
called new normal music and it was

2412
01:28:38,229 --> 01:28:35,920
online

2413
01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:38,239
and i listened to that music during my

2414
01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:39,280
breakup with

2415
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:40,960
with my ex-girlfriend because it was

2416
01:28:43,669 --> 01:28:42,480
completely different music than what i

2417
01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:43,679
was used to listening to

2418
01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:46,080
so i didn't conjure any memories or

2419
01:28:49,350 --> 01:28:47,280
anything like that

2420
01:28:51,350 --> 01:28:49,360
uh and i wound up reaching out to him

2421
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:51,360
and we were friends ever since that was

2422
01:28:54,629 --> 01:28:52,800
about three or four years ago

2423
01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:54,639
and now we work together on on truth

2424
01:28:58,709 --> 01:28:56,320
funders so it's oh

2425
01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:58,719
that's great yeah he seems like a really

2426
01:29:02,629 --> 01:29:00,719
good guy and i'm so glad you guys are at

2427
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:02,639
ir and you have no idea

2428
01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:04,960
oh they're so incredible yeah and every

2429
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:06,639
i'm sure the fans listening right now

2430
01:29:12,709 --> 01:29:09,760
know how incredible irn is it's it's a

2431
01:29:14,310 --> 01:29:12,719
such a different network um they have

2432
01:29:16,550 --> 01:29:14,320
just killer shows

2433
01:29:18,229 --> 01:29:16,560
your show is just fabulous i mean it was

2434
01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:18,239
it was what drew me to the network in

2435
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:19,600
the very first place

2436
01:29:25,590 --> 01:29:22,639
um i searched paranormal radio

2437
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:25,600
and and it came up and i listened to

2438
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:27,600
your show and i was like this is wacky

2439
01:29:35,669 --> 01:29:33,270
well you know i gotta say that's a huge

2440
01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:35,679
compliment that i'm all wacky i love it

2441
01:29:39,510 --> 01:29:37,760
thanks mark well it was a breath of

2442
01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:39,520
fresh air because there's so much stuff

2443
01:29:43,270 --> 01:29:41,440
that you hear online that's the same

2444
01:29:45,350 --> 01:29:43,280
with the same guests and the same people

2445
01:29:48,629 --> 01:29:45,360
and so it was really nice to hear

2446
01:29:51,030 --> 01:29:48,639
uh hear some some new people and

2447
01:29:53,990 --> 01:29:51,040
uh your take on it it was kind of like i

2448
01:29:55,750 --> 01:29:54,000
feel like your no holds bars your euro

2449
01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:55,760
you know a lot of hosts are afraid to

2450
01:30:01,590 --> 01:29:58,239
get into the whole like

2451
01:30:04,070 --> 01:30:01,600
uh i've seen things and they try to

2452
01:30:06,070 --> 01:30:04,080
remain subjective which is great i think

2453
01:30:09,189 --> 01:30:06,080
i think that's really good to to do

2454
01:30:10,790 --> 01:30:09,199
but i feel like you just jump in and and

2455
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:10,800
that was just really there's

2456
01:30:14,550 --> 01:30:12,400
it's very unique there's nothing else

2457
01:30:16,229 --> 01:30:14,560
like it well thank you i really

2458
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:16,239
appreciate that you know one of the most

2459
01:30:18,390 --> 01:30:18,000
important things for me is that i tell

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01:30:21,110 --> 01:30:18,400
the

2461
01:30:23,030 --> 01:30:21,120
my truth to people because i want people

2462
01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:23,040
to come on my show that nobody knows

2463
01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:24,800
about and i want them to understand that

2464
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:25,440
they're

2465
01:30:31,669 --> 01:30:30,320
that their truth means a lot to me

2466
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:31,679
because that's what i'm doing i'm

2467
01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:33,440
telling people my truth as well now you

2468
01:30:37,590 --> 01:30:35,280
can tell your people your truth

2469
01:30:38,790 --> 01:30:37,600
and then you can be all like a crazy cat

2470
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:38,800
lady around it and then

2471
01:30:43,030 --> 01:30:41,440
nobody wants to hear you again but if

2472
01:30:43,510 --> 01:30:43,040
you tell your truth and in the same

2473
01:30:46,310 --> 01:30:43,520
breath

2474
01:30:47,750 --> 01:30:46,320
you say like i say you know it could or

2475
01:30:49,750 --> 01:30:47,760
could not be true it could be something

2476
01:30:51,270 --> 01:30:49,760
in my own head hey maybe my therapist

2477
01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:51,280
can figure out what's wrong with me

2478
01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:53,440
but you know i mean the bottom line is

2479
01:30:57,189 --> 01:30:54,960
we don't know and i'm

2480
01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:57,199
brave enough also in the same breath to

2481
01:31:01,430 --> 01:30:59,840
not get on a bandwagon that says

2482
01:31:03,510 --> 01:31:01,440
what i'm saying is the absolute truth

2483
01:31:05,270 --> 01:31:03,520
and you have to believe me what i say

2484
01:31:06,870 --> 01:31:05,280
is hey just take it for what it is

2485
01:31:10,070 --> 01:31:06,880
because everybody has a different

2486
01:31:12,709 --> 01:31:10,080
perception of my experience even

2487
01:31:14,550 --> 01:31:12,719
more so than i do so you know and it's

2488
01:31:16,070 --> 01:31:14,560
if it's real it's real if it's not it's

2489
01:31:16,950 --> 01:31:16,080
not it doesn't matter we're all living

2490
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:16,960
the same unique

2491
01:31:22,070 --> 01:31:20,080
earth experience here so absolutely

2492
01:31:27,590 --> 01:31:22,080
yeah as long as we're having fun i think

2493
01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:29,750
well that's good thank you so much well

2494
01:31:33,270 --> 01:31:32,080
so who was your guest tonight on truth

2495
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:33,280
funders

2496
01:31:39,669 --> 01:31:36,480
uh tonight we had uh jose escamilla

2497
01:31:41,510 --> 01:31:39,679
oh and how's he doing by the way he's

2498
01:31:43,910 --> 01:31:41,520
good we didn't get into any of

2499
01:31:46,470 --> 01:31:43,920
of the medical stuff but uh that's fine

2500
01:31:47,669 --> 01:31:46,480
but he's okay and he's back at home and

2501
01:31:49,830 --> 01:31:47,679
everything's good right

2502
01:31:51,910 --> 01:31:49,840
yeah yeah you know he's just really

2503
01:31:53,510 --> 01:31:51,920
passionate he's been working on rods for

2504
01:31:57,110 --> 01:31:53,520
over 20 years

2505
01:31:58,550 --> 01:31:57,120
20 years you know and that story broke

2506
01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:58,560
we were talking about it on the show

2507
01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:00,880
today his story broke on art bell

2508
01:32:04,149 --> 01:32:03,280
you know in 1990s yeah and i was

2509
01:32:06,470 --> 01:32:04,159
listening it was

2510
01:32:07,990 --> 01:32:06,480
life-changing for him and it and you

2511
01:32:10,709 --> 01:32:08,000
know seeing this stuff

2512
01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:10,719
all he's trying to do is show the world

2513
01:32:14,070 --> 01:32:11,600
that it's

2514
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:14,080
it's out there and that he has i mean

2515
01:32:17,189 --> 01:32:14,800
truly

2516
01:32:18,790 --> 01:32:17,199
some of the broad footage i i've seen so

2517
01:32:20,870 --> 01:32:18,800
much of it now it's

2518
01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:20,880
you can't you can't say it's not there

2519
01:32:24,629 --> 01:32:22,000
you can't deny that

2520
01:32:25,830 --> 01:32:24,639
it's just it's literally there um

2521
01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:25,840
absolutely

2522
01:32:29,750 --> 01:32:28,880
so it's pretty it's pretty cool and we

2523
01:32:31,669 --> 01:32:29,760
talked about that

2524
01:32:33,430 --> 01:32:31,679
talked a little bit about what he was

2525
01:32:35,830 --> 01:32:33,440
doing um you know there's some

2526
01:32:38,950 --> 01:32:35,840
controversy with monster quest

2527
01:32:42,709 --> 01:32:38,960
uh going in and and trying to debunk him

2528
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:42,719
and sort of what how he felt about that

2529
01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:44,080
and

2530
01:32:47,590 --> 01:32:45,600
you know hearing his side of the story

2531
01:32:48,550 --> 01:32:47,600
which is really cool because being a

2532
01:32:51,110 --> 01:32:48,560
media person

2533
01:32:52,870 --> 01:32:51,120
and being a producer um you know working

2534
01:32:56,149 --> 01:32:52,880
in the industry for so long

2535
01:32:58,070 --> 01:32:56,159
i'm able to see see through stuff uh

2536
01:32:59,830 --> 01:32:58,080
when i watch the news i'm able to tell

2537
01:33:01,910 --> 01:32:59,840
what's b-roll what's

2538
01:33:02,950 --> 01:33:01,920
what's fake what's been edited together

2539
01:33:06,149 --> 01:33:02,960
who did what

2540
01:33:08,629 --> 01:33:06,159
you know who wrote what script uh

2541
01:33:10,390 --> 01:33:08,639
and and so monster quest you know he was

2542
01:33:11,350 --> 01:33:10,400
describing all the things that happened

2543
01:33:13,270 --> 01:33:11,360
to him

2544
01:33:14,870 --> 01:33:13,280
uh on that show and he thought they were

2545
01:33:16,629 --> 01:33:14,880
going to do a really great job

2546
01:33:17,910 --> 01:33:16,639
and they wound up you know sort of

2547
01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:17,920
taking the lazy way

2548
01:33:22,310 --> 01:33:20,480
and debunking and not doing the stuff

2549
01:33:24,870 --> 01:33:22,320
the way he asked them to and

2550
01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:24,880
yeah you know it's really troubling to

2551
01:33:27,990 --> 01:33:25,920
hear that

2552
01:33:29,189 --> 01:33:28,000
uh but it's really good to expose that

2553
01:33:31,430 --> 01:33:29,199
too um

2554
01:33:33,270 --> 01:33:31,440
so so i hope that we did a little bit of

2555
01:33:36,470 --> 01:33:33,280
exposing some of the

2556
01:33:37,750 --> 01:33:36,480
the nature of of the business today and

2557
01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:37,760
what does go on

2558
01:33:41,590 --> 01:33:40,320
sort of behind the scenes yeah yeah

2559
01:33:44,149 --> 01:33:41,600
absolutely

2560
01:33:44,950 --> 01:33:44,159
well cool well i want to thank you for

2561
01:33:47,110 --> 01:33:44,960
popping in

2562
01:33:49,590 --> 01:33:47,120
i know you got to go you and i are both

2563
01:33:51,669 --> 01:33:49,600
living here in marin county california

2564
01:33:53,350 --> 01:33:51,679
and the acacias are blooming and

2565
01:33:55,510 --> 01:33:53,360
something's happening because i'll tell

2566
01:33:58,149 --> 01:33:55,520
you what i am miserable

2567
01:34:00,950 --> 01:33:58,159
i know we both sound like kermit the

2568
01:34:04,149 --> 01:34:00,960
frog together isn't that cute

2569
01:34:06,550 --> 01:34:04,159
yeah exactly um well you know what

2570
01:34:08,390 --> 01:34:06,560
you're i just i love your show it's such

2571
01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:08,400
it's so great it really is it's so

2572
01:34:12,149 --> 01:34:09,360
entertaining

2573
01:34:13,669 --> 01:34:12,159
you have such real people on um you're

2574
01:34:15,430 --> 01:34:13,679
handling it you're all you're on by

2575
01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:15,440
yourself tonight and i'm just listening

2576
01:34:19,030 --> 01:34:17,440
it's like listening to a friend talk

2577
01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:19,040
um and you are my friend so i am

2578
01:34:23,590 --> 01:34:20,880
listening to my friend talk but

2579
01:34:24,790 --> 01:34:23,600
uh you know it's kind of incestuous

2580
01:34:27,910 --> 01:34:24,800
isn't it

2581
01:34:28,229 --> 01:34:27,920
but it's it's great and uh you know i

2582
01:34:31,430 --> 01:34:28,239
think

2583
01:34:34,470 --> 01:34:31,440
people out there they really should uh

2584
01:34:34,870 --> 01:34:34,480
think about going to ufo con because it

2585
01:34:39,030 --> 01:34:34,880
you

2586
01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:39,040
it's like the 3d version

2587
01:34:42,709 --> 01:34:40,560
and to meet some of these people that

2588
01:34:46,709 --> 01:34:42,719
you hear on the show all the time

2589
01:34:49,270 --> 01:34:46,719
it really uh can can affect you and and

2590
01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:49,280
in a really positive way so i will be

2591
01:34:53,109 --> 01:34:51,280
there i'm so excited to be there i can't

2592
01:34:55,990 --> 01:34:53,119
wait to meet some of your fans

2593
01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:56,000
uh and and see some of the speakers you

2594
01:34:59,430 --> 01:34:56,320
know

2595
01:35:00,709 --> 01:34:59,440
uh you said we might get rick fryer to

2596
01:35:02,870 --> 01:35:00,719
be one of the speakers and

2597
01:35:04,470 --> 01:35:02,880
his stuff is great yeah oh i haven't

2598
01:35:05,189 --> 01:35:04,480
even had him on the show yet and i've

2599
01:35:06,950 --> 01:35:05,199
been i've

2600
01:35:08,870 --> 01:35:06,960
that's the other thing i gotta do i

2601
01:35:12,070 --> 01:35:08,880
gotta book him for the show

2602
01:35:13,750 --> 01:35:12,080
yeah you know he was at uh mufon at your

2603
01:35:15,430 --> 01:35:13,760
your mufa meeting a few months ago i

2604
01:35:17,430 --> 01:35:15,440
think it was the christmas christmas it

2605
01:35:19,510 --> 01:35:17,440
was our christmas party it was so much

2606
01:35:21,830 --> 01:35:19,520
fun too that was a blast

2607
01:35:23,510 --> 01:35:21,840
it was a blast yeah and it was so funny

2608
01:35:25,750 --> 01:35:23,520
meeting you i was like oh

2609
01:35:26,629 --> 01:35:25,760
that's lori and i've i've heard her on

2610
01:35:29,910 --> 01:35:26,639
air

2611
01:35:32,950 --> 01:35:29,920
i was super excited like a little kid

2612
01:35:35,590 --> 01:35:32,960
oh god well no we had a really good time

2613
01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:35,600
and uh rick was absolutely fascinating

2614
01:35:38,629 --> 01:35:36,880
you know even

2615
01:35:40,870 --> 01:35:38,639
the director of northern california

2616
01:35:41,590 --> 01:35:40,880
mufon ruben uriarti came up to me and

2617
01:35:45,910 --> 01:35:41,600
said

2618
01:35:48,550 --> 01:35:45,920
didn't find him mark found him but

2619
01:35:51,109 --> 01:35:48,560
he's he's awesome isn't he he goes i

2620
01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:51,119
just never thought that science faction

2621
01:35:54,149 --> 01:35:53,199
like rick calls it instead of science

2622
01:35:57,590 --> 01:35:54,159
fiction

2623
01:36:00,310 --> 01:35:57,600
could you know intertwine with the alien

2624
01:36:02,470 --> 01:36:00,320
ufo agenda as well as he's done it

2625
01:36:03,510 --> 01:36:02,480
he says this kid knows his re how to

2626
01:36:05,669 --> 01:36:03,520
research

2627
01:36:06,550 --> 01:36:05,679
and and just when you think he's going

2628
01:36:09,590 --> 01:36:06,560
too far

2629
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:09,600
into a place that might not be

2630
01:36:12,950 --> 01:36:11,040
might not have anything to do with

2631
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:12,960
aliens suddenly he's

2632
01:36:15,990 --> 01:36:15,280
like brings you right back in and it all

2633
01:36:17,510 --> 01:36:16,000
makes sense

2634
01:36:19,750 --> 01:36:17,520
all the stuff that he was just

2635
01:36:22,390 --> 01:36:19,760
discussing and it's politics

2636
01:36:23,270 --> 01:36:22,400
global politics and then it's it's how

2637
01:36:25,270 --> 01:36:23,280
it connects with

2638
01:36:28,229 --> 01:36:25,280
you know what's going on in in that

2639
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:28,239
alien world

2640
01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:30,320
the most mark was the fact that he never

2641
01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:32,320
said this is the way it is

2642
01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:35,040
he just said this is what my research

2643
01:36:38,629 --> 01:36:36,480
has led me to believe

2644
01:36:40,790 --> 01:36:38,639
you know this is the scenario i would be

2645
01:36:42,470 --> 01:36:40,800
putting in a science faction book if i

2646
01:36:44,470 --> 01:36:42,480
was writing one

2647
01:36:45,750 --> 01:36:44,480
yeah and that's what i love about it i

2648
01:36:48,950 --> 01:36:45,760
think it's awesome

2649
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:48,960
yeah and his books are great um so

2650
01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:50,960
i'm sure he would have them at you know

2651
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:52,800
if if he's booked for the show if you're

2652
01:36:56,709 --> 01:36:54,320
if you're able to grab him

2653
01:36:58,070 --> 01:36:56,719
um yeah i'm trying to get him to do a

2654
01:37:00,070 --> 01:36:58,080
truth thunders project

2655
01:37:01,830 --> 01:37:00,080
uh i i know he's working on a new book

2656
01:37:03,830 --> 01:37:01,840
so we're thinking of potentially

2657
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:03,840
working together and having it try to be

2658
01:37:09,270 --> 01:37:07,520
funded through truth blenders

2659
01:37:10,950 --> 01:37:09,280
yeah and i'll be donating money for that

2660
01:37:13,350 --> 01:37:10,960
one for sure yeah

2661
01:37:14,470 --> 01:37:13,360
yeah and and anybody listening you know

2662
01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:14,480
if you are

2663
01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:16,480
on the other side of the country and if

2664
01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:18,000
you're unable to

2665
01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:21,360
make it to to uh the

2666
01:37:26,390 --> 01:37:24,639
the california ufo con uh i really

2667
01:37:28,790 --> 01:37:26,400
really recommend going to

2668
01:37:30,629 --> 01:37:28,800
truth funders there is the ufo con there

2669
01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:30,639
and there's ways to

2670
01:37:35,990 --> 01:37:34,000
to uh contribute and help out and in the

2671
01:37:37,030 --> 01:37:36,000
at the same time get something for what

2672
01:37:38,790 --> 01:37:37,040
you're doing which is

2673
01:37:40,390 --> 01:37:38,800
you'll be able to get the videos and

2674
01:37:42,149 --> 01:37:40,400
access to all the videos

2675
01:37:44,229 --> 01:37:42,159
uh of the different speakers if you're

2676
01:37:46,149 --> 01:37:44,239
if you're unable to make it absolutely

2677
01:37:48,790 --> 01:37:46,159
yes which is a super cheap way to go

2678
01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:48,800
without a plane flight it is and you

2679
01:37:52,229 --> 01:37:50,159
know what's cool about it is

2680
01:37:54,229 --> 01:37:52,239
i will be selling all of those videos

2681
01:37:56,229 --> 01:37:54,239
for quite a bit more money

2682
01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:56,239
when the actual comes around to you know

2683
01:38:00,310 --> 01:37:58,400
when we get them edited and everything

2684
01:38:02,070 --> 01:38:00,320
anybody who donates at truth funders is

2685
01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:02,080
going to get them at a huge discount

2686
01:38:06,070 --> 01:38:04,400
so it'll just be like being there and

2687
01:38:07,990 --> 01:38:06,080
paying your ticket and you'll get in

2688
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:08,000
if you wait and then you don't get a

2689
01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:10,000
ticket or don't go to truth funders

2690
01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:11,360
and you say oh i'll just watch the

2691
01:38:14,870 --> 01:38:13,600
videos later it'll cost you like two or

2692
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:14,880
three hundred bucks to get all the

2693
01:38:19,109 --> 01:38:17,119
videos whereas if you just donate the 80

2694
01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:19,119
or 100 or whatever it is you get just

2695
01:38:22,790 --> 01:38:20,800
like a ticket to the event

2696
01:38:25,030 --> 01:38:22,800
and then you get the whole event as well

2697
01:38:26,950 --> 01:38:25,040
so you know it's pretty cool

2698
01:38:29,030 --> 01:38:26,960
it's kind of like buying a virtual

2699
01:38:31,109 --> 01:38:29,040
ticket for the same price

2700
01:38:32,629 --> 01:38:31,119
yeah and i believe there's uh you know

2701
01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:32,639
you get to meet the guests and there's

2702
01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:33,440
dinners and

2703
01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:35,280
autographs and all sorts of stuff like

2704
01:38:39,669 --> 01:38:36,560
that there too yeah

2705
01:38:41,270 --> 01:38:39,679
absolutely so really cool and i wish you

2706
01:38:42,070 --> 01:38:41,280
the best of luck i can't wait to be

2707
01:38:45,430 --> 01:38:42,080
there i will

2708
01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:47,669
uh this weekend okay so don't all right

2709
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,960
forget all right

2710
01:38:52,229 --> 01:38:50,639
sounds great hey thank you so much for

2711
01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:52,239
having me on laurie great to hear from

2712
01:38:58,149 --> 01:38:52,880
you

2713
01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:58,159
i'm sure they are me too

2714
01:39:01,189 --> 01:39:00,480
me too and if they're not they could uh

2715
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:01,199
let us know

2716
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:03,520
and if they are they honestly they are i

2717
01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:05,520
know they are they've got to be

2718
01:39:10,310 --> 01:39:08,800
so anyway it was it was a blast um

2719
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:10,320
so yeah thank you i don't want to take

2720
01:39:14,870 --> 01:39:12,880
up your show i love you lauren

2721
01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:14,880
love you too sweetie take care talk to

2722
01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:16,000
you later bye

2723
01:39:20,629 --> 01:39:19,040
okay bye-bye okay folks that was mark

2724
01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:20,639
schwartz one of the two

2725
01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:23,040
gentlemen that have true funders uh it's

2726
01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:25,280
a radio show right before mine here on

2727
01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:27,520
wednesday nights in irn

2728
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:30,400
and they are just two amazing guys i've

2729
01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:32,400
known mark now for quite a while and he

2730
01:39:36,310 --> 01:39:33,520
is just truly

2731
01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:36,320
one of my favorite people um he started

2732
01:39:41,109 --> 01:39:37,920
truth funders because

2733
01:39:43,030 --> 01:39:41,119
he wanted everybody to have a way

2734
01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:43,040
to donate money to people who have

2735
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:45,280
projects like ufo con

2736
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:49,199
or jose escamilla's rods movie or

2737
01:39:54,149 --> 01:39:51,600
jonathan nolan's mysteries of the south

2738
01:39:56,070 --> 01:39:54,159
pacific documentary that he wants to do

2739
01:39:57,990 --> 01:39:56,080
and that's how i met john uh yeah

2740
01:40:00,229 --> 01:39:58,000
jonathan was through mark

2741
01:40:01,750 --> 01:40:00,239
and now jonathan is coming all the way

2742
01:40:03,669 --> 01:40:01,760
from australia to

2743
01:40:05,990 --> 01:40:03,679
talk about the underground underwater

2744
01:40:07,830 --> 01:40:06,000
base it's just going to be wild i mean

2745
01:40:09,830 --> 01:40:07,840
it's amazing you folks when you meet

2746
01:40:11,030 --> 01:40:09,840
people you start talking to them you

2747
01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:11,040
look them in the eye and you're

2748
01:40:14,390 --> 01:40:13,360
with them this is what my mufon meetings

2749
01:40:16,870 --> 01:40:14,400
have done for me

2750
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:16,880
you know this is the bottom line mark

2751
01:40:20,229 --> 01:40:18,400
came to my mufon meeting

2752
01:40:22,070 --> 01:40:20,239
he didn't know that it was the same

2753
01:40:23,669 --> 01:40:22,080
person he was hearing at iran and then

2754
01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:23,679
when he met me he was like oh my god

2755
01:40:27,590 --> 01:40:25,440
you're lorien fenton i said yeah

2756
01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:27,600
i know who i am you know we were

2757
01:40:31,750 --> 01:40:28,560
laughing and

2758
01:40:32,870 --> 01:40:31,760
uh it's just amazing the amount of

2759
01:40:35,109 --> 01:40:32,880
people you meet

2760
01:40:36,070 --> 01:40:35,119
at mufon meetings i can't stress that

2761
01:40:37,510 --> 01:40:36,080
enough

2762
01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:37,520
you've got to get out there and you've

2763
01:40:41,590 --> 01:40:39,600
got to be around other people that's why

2764
01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:41,600
i put on ufo con

2765
01:40:44,950 --> 01:40:43,280
i tell people all the time if you think

2766
01:40:46,550 --> 01:40:44,960
i'm making money out of this and if you

2767
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:46,560
think that i'm actually

2768
01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:49,600
sane during the whole process then

2769
01:40:54,149 --> 01:40:51,920
oh boy if i got another thought for you

2770
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:54,159
uh this is not a money-making adventure

2771
01:40:58,229 --> 01:40:55,840
i happen to have been producing

2772
01:41:00,629 --> 01:40:58,239
conferences now for almost 30 years or

2773
01:41:01,590 --> 01:41:00,639
events or arts festivals or you know

2774
01:41:03,750 --> 01:41:01,600
whatever

2775
01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:03,760
so producing them is not the problem for

2776
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:06,400
me getting people to come to these kind

2777
01:41:09,350 --> 01:41:07,119
of events

2778
01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:09,360
is because i'm not international ufo

2779
01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:11,440
congress i'm not the big guy on the

2780
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:13,360
block i'm not any of those people but

2781
01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:13,920
what i

2782
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:16,320
am is i'm putting on an event where

2783
01:41:22,149 --> 01:41:19,040
you're in a room full of 150 people

2784
01:41:23,189 --> 01:41:22,159
200 people that all talk your same

2785
01:41:24,470 --> 01:41:23,199
language folks

2786
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:24,480
they understand what you're talking

2787
01:41:27,830 --> 01:41:25,920
about it's like going to my mufon

2788
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:27,840
meetings we have a core group of 40 to

2789
01:41:31,030 --> 01:41:28,960
50 people

2790
01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:31,040
we look each other in the eye we're all

2791
01:41:36,390 --> 01:41:33,840
friends we all respect each other we

2792
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:36,400
respect each other's opinions and people

2793
01:41:40,149 --> 01:41:39,600
range in age from 20 something to 80

2794
01:41:42,310 --> 01:41:40,159
something

2795
01:41:44,149 --> 01:41:42,320
at my meetings and we have the most

2796
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:44,159
amazing exchanges

2797
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:46,880
people are telling the their truth to

2798
01:41:51,669 --> 01:41:48,960
each other at our meetings

2799
01:41:52,149 --> 01:41:51,679
that is absolutely mind-boggling it's

2800
01:41:54,950 --> 01:41:52,159
just

2801
01:41:57,270 --> 01:41:54,960
it's almost i would say almost as good

2802
01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:57,280
as an experiencer's group

2803
01:42:01,669 --> 01:41:59,520
but in my opinion and i know this is

2804
01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:01,679
going to sound a little hoity-toity

2805
01:42:05,990 --> 01:42:03,520
i have a lot of friends who have

2806
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:06,000
experiencers groups

2807
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:08,000
and their licensed psychotherapists and

2808
01:42:11,350 --> 01:42:10,080
they do an amazing job with these people

2809
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:11,360
who are having

2810
01:42:16,310 --> 01:42:15,040
extreme ptsd issues with the abduction

2811
01:42:18,790 --> 01:42:16,320
phenomena

2812
01:42:20,709 --> 01:42:18,800
but i think there's so many other types

2813
01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:20,719
of of things that are happening to

2814
01:42:24,310 --> 01:42:22,800
people and if they just have somebody to

2815
01:42:26,310 --> 01:42:24,320
talk to about it

2816
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:26,320
i think they're a lot happier than

2817
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:28,080
sitting at a therapist's

2818
01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:29,920
office you know trying to get all the

2819
01:42:33,270 --> 01:42:32,000
answers in some way just having friends

2820
01:42:33,910 --> 01:42:33,280
that are going through what you're going

2821
01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:33,920
through

2822
01:42:37,590 --> 01:42:36,480
and not have to psychoanalyze it all the

2823
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:37,600
time

2824
01:42:41,510 --> 01:42:40,000
just a little bit nicer and a little bit

2825
01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:41,520
easier on people

2826
01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:43,360
so i'm not saying not to go to a

2827
01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:45,280
therapist i'm not saying not to get

2828
01:42:48,310 --> 01:42:47,440
regressed if you need it i'm saying this

2829
01:42:51,109 --> 01:42:48,320
may be an

2830
01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:51,119
easier way to jump into the pool just by

2831
01:42:56,390 --> 01:42:53,360
meeting friends at mufon

2832
01:42:59,270 --> 01:42:56,400
you know so if you do that wonderful so

2833
01:43:00,870 --> 01:42:59,280
like i say folks it's all about looking

2834
01:43:02,950 --> 01:43:00,880
each other in the eye

2835
01:43:04,310 --> 01:43:02,960
and saying to each other hi you know i

2836
01:43:05,750 --> 01:43:04,320
had a really weird experience do you

2837
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:05,760
want to hear about it you know

2838
01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:07,920
99 of the people in my group are like

2839
01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:08,960
all ears

2840
01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:10,800
they can't wait to hear about what

2841
01:43:13,910 --> 01:43:12,320
you've been through and then they'll

2842
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:13,920
share with you what they've been through

2843
01:43:16,870 --> 01:43:15,280
and then we all have

2844
01:43:18,790 --> 01:43:16,880
we all know each other's stories and

2845
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:18,800
that's even funner because after we've

2846
01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:20,639
all found each other's stories out

2847
01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:22,400
we just hang out and talk about what we

2848
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:23,920
think could happen in the future what

2849
01:43:27,350 --> 01:43:25,440
time travel could be

2850
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:27,360
what consciousness connections are

2851
01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:29,040
between aliens and humans

2852
01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:30,880
we just have a great time because we're

2853
01:43:33,189 --> 01:43:32,800
all speaking the same language folks

2854
01:43:35,990 --> 01:43:33,199
it's

2855
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:36,000
absolutely amazing now that's what ufo

2856
01:43:40,550 --> 01:43:38,800
con is about ufo khan is a giant meeting

2857
01:43:42,870 --> 01:43:40,560
where we can all get together we can

2858
01:43:44,470 --> 01:43:42,880
talk about whatever is under the sun we

2859
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:44,480
could talk about the fact that douglas

2860
01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:45,280
dietrich

2861
01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:46,800
who's going to be presenting on the

2862
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:48,960
battle of los angeles he doesn't believe

2863
01:43:51,750 --> 01:43:50,080
it's a ufo

2864
01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:51,760
and we can all sit there and debate him

2865
01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:53,360
until we're green because he doesn't

2866
01:43:55,510 --> 01:43:53,840
care

2867
01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:55,520
that we debate him because he has

2868
01:44:01,270 --> 01:43:58,480
respect for our group

2869
01:44:03,510 --> 01:44:01,280
which is quite amazing you know i mean

2870
01:44:04,950 --> 01:44:03,520
to have a guy like that who is a walking

2871
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:04,960
encyclopedia he's

2872
01:44:09,189 --> 01:44:06,480
absolutely an amazing guy he's one of my

2873
01:44:11,189 --> 01:44:09,199
best friends and you know and he

2874
01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:11,199
and he knows that he's going to be in

2875
01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:12,800
front of 200 people that

2876
01:44:15,430 --> 01:44:14,159
don't believe what he's saying but

2877
01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:15,440
they're all going to listen to him and

2878
01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:17,360
respect him for what he has to say

2879
01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:19,199
so those are the kind of people i hang

2880
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:20,960
out with and they're all coming to ufo

2881
01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:22,960
con i hope you guys are too

2882
01:44:28,629 --> 01:44:27,199
okay a quick moment back to stan romanak

2883
01:44:31,030 --> 01:44:28,639
uh there were a couple questions

2884
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:31,040
redshift asked two questions lauren

2885
01:44:35,030 --> 01:44:33,199
did dan burst ever say what he thinks

2886
01:44:37,669 --> 01:44:35,040
brought down the roswell craft i heard

2887
01:44:40,390 --> 01:44:37,679
the radar caused the accident well

2888
01:44:41,510 --> 01:44:40,400
you know ah gosh now i'm trying to

2889
01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:41,520
remember

2890
01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:44,159
i have heard from several sources about

2891
01:44:47,430 --> 01:44:45,520
what they thought brought down the

2892
01:44:49,590 --> 01:44:47,440
roswell crash and i can't remember if

2893
01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:49,600
one of them was damn burst or not

2894
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,400
but this is very interesting tron my

2895
01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:54,400
good friend plutronis who's going to be

2896
01:44:58,390 --> 01:44:56,000
at ufo con

2897
01:45:00,550 --> 01:44:58,400
and has been on the show several times

2898
01:45:03,430 --> 01:45:00,560
really has the answer to that one

2899
01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:03,440
because that is one of his specialties

2900
01:45:07,590 --> 01:45:04,480
is that type of

2901
01:45:11,189 --> 01:45:07,600
radar array systems and

2902
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:11,199
i think it was him that told me

2903
01:45:15,669 --> 01:45:14,320
that it really wasn't radar in the sense

2904
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:15,679
of regular radar

2905
01:45:19,189 --> 01:45:17,760
it was a different type of radar that

2906
01:45:22,629 --> 01:45:19,199
they were using

2907
01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:22,639
that is just on the edge of being radar

2908
01:45:29,430 --> 01:45:25,920
if you want to call it that so

2909
01:45:32,229 --> 01:45:29,440
there you go that's my answer right now

2910
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:32,239
so redshift what we'll do is i will

2911
01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:33,679
definitely

2912
01:45:38,310 --> 01:45:36,400
um have plutronis back on the show

2913
01:45:41,990 --> 01:45:38,320
within the next month or so

2914
01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:42,000
and um we'll we'll see about that and oh

2915
01:45:46,229 --> 01:45:43,840
redshift right now in chat you're

2916
01:45:48,470 --> 01:45:46,239
talking about dorothy isaac

2917
01:45:50,550 --> 01:45:48,480
guess who i'm trying to get dorothy

2918
01:45:52,709 --> 01:45:50,560
isaac's representative to be

2919
01:45:54,229 --> 01:45:52,719
at ufo con that's what i'm working on i

2920
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:54,239
wasn't going to tell you guys but now

2921
01:45:58,470 --> 01:45:56,000
that you brought her up

2922
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:58,480
because i think she's amazing she has

2923
01:46:02,149 --> 01:45:59,280
pictures

2924
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:02,159
in her living room of them on these

2925
01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:03,440
crafts

2926
01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:06,400
oh my god it's wild her story is just so

2927
01:46:09,590 --> 01:46:08,639
well it goes so far beyond what people

2928
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:09,600
see

2929
01:46:14,470 --> 01:46:12,960
uh it's just unbelievable so i can't get

2930
01:46:16,390 --> 01:46:14,480
her folks but i can

2931
01:46:17,830 --> 01:46:16,400
get her representative who's been here

2932
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:17,840
on the show before

2933
01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:20,719
uh i think is i can't remember his name

2934
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:21,440
right now i was

2935
01:46:25,030 --> 01:46:23,040
trying to find it this afternoon when i

2936
01:46:28,709 --> 01:46:25,040
got home so we'll see

2937
01:46:31,430 --> 01:46:28,719
we'll see what happens um anyhow so

2938
01:46:32,709 --> 01:46:31,440
uh back to the questions uh whatever

2939
01:46:34,149 --> 01:46:32,719
happened to bill herman

2940
01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:34,159
and you know i don't know who bill

2941
01:46:37,270 --> 01:46:35,760
herman is i can't believe i don't know

2942
01:46:39,270 --> 01:46:37,280
who this is

2943
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:39,280
um so i can't answer that question i'm

2944
01:46:41,990 --> 01:46:40,320
so sorry

2945
01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:42,000
bill herman i'll be looking them up this

2946
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:43,679
week and i'll give you guys an answer

2947
01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:45,760
next week okay

2948
01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:48,480
so that's that okay i don't see any more

2949
01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:50,400
questions in chat if anybody has

2950
01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:52,880
one or two or just something quickly i

2951
01:46:57,030 --> 01:46:54,400
can answer

2952
01:47:00,550 --> 01:46:57,040
uh that would be great um what movie are

2953
01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:00,560
you guys talking about in chat

2954
01:47:05,189 --> 01:47:02,880
betty cash betty cash why does that name

2955
01:47:07,990 --> 01:47:05,199
sound familiar too

2956
01:47:09,350 --> 01:47:08,000
capture the light capturing the light uh

2957
01:47:12,629 --> 01:47:09,360
capturing the light

2958
01:47:18,070 --> 01:47:12,639
that's gotta be the uh dorothy isaac

2959
01:47:21,669 --> 01:47:20,149
okay i know that those of you who aren't

2960
01:47:22,070 --> 01:47:21,679
in the chat room don't know what i'm

2961
01:47:25,750 --> 01:47:22,080
talking

2962
01:47:27,270 --> 01:47:25,760
called capturing the light

2963
01:47:30,310 --> 01:47:27,280
and they're also talking about a woman

2964
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:30,320
named betty cash and dorothy isaac

2965
01:47:37,030 --> 01:47:34,000
isaac and um

2966
01:47:38,629 --> 01:47:37,040
let's see i can't think of bill herman

2967
01:47:40,310 --> 01:47:38,639
okay they're showing me bill herman

2968
01:47:41,990 --> 01:47:40,320
which i don't know anything about bill

2969
01:47:43,189 --> 01:47:42,000
herman i'll have to find out about him

2970
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:43,199
as well

2971
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:45,280
and we have a couple minutes left here i

2972
01:47:48,950 --> 01:47:47,280
guess i got time for one quick story i'm

2973
01:47:51,189 --> 01:47:48,960
not sure if i ever told the story on the

2974
01:47:55,510 --> 01:47:51,199
air and i'm gonna do it very fast

2975
01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:55,520
i was about 19 years old or maybe 18

2976
01:48:00,870 --> 01:47:59,360
and i had gone out and i had partied

2977
01:48:04,149 --> 01:48:00,880
very hard

2978
01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:04,159
and i drank way way

2979
01:48:09,109 --> 01:48:06,800
more than i had in my entire life up to

2980
01:48:10,229 --> 01:48:09,119
that point in my ripe old age of like

2981
01:48:14,870 --> 01:48:10,239
18.

2982
01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:14,880
i drank i was with some college buddy

2983
01:48:19,350 --> 01:48:16,800
friends that were older than me

2984
01:48:21,830 --> 01:48:19,360
and all i can tell you folks is i didn't

2985
01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:21,840
know about alcohol poisoning back then

2986
01:48:26,149 --> 01:48:24,239
but i'm pretty sure that's what happened

2987
01:48:27,830 --> 01:48:26,159
to me because it was the first time i

2988
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:27,840
ever drank vodka

2989
01:48:31,430 --> 01:48:30,960
and oh my god i don't know but all i

2990
01:48:34,470 --> 01:48:31,440
know

2991
01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:34,480
is i ended up in bed at home sick as a

2992
01:48:38,709 --> 01:48:35,760
dog

2993
01:48:39,189 --> 01:48:38,719
and i fell asleep and the next thing i

2994
01:48:42,709 --> 01:48:39,199
know

2995
01:48:45,669 --> 01:48:42,719
is i'm pushing my

2996
01:48:46,149 --> 01:48:45,679
hands down onto the bed and going up

2997
01:48:48,229 --> 01:48:46,159
into

2998
01:48:49,990 --> 01:48:48,239
in the yoga position i can't remember

2999
01:48:50,709 --> 01:48:50,000
what it's called i think it's the cat or

3000
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:50,719
something

3001
01:48:53,990 --> 01:48:52,320
where your head is up and your body's

3002
01:48:55,669 --> 01:48:54,000
just kind of a slight s

3003
01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:55,679
curve so i'm pushing my hands down in

3004
01:49:01,270 --> 01:48:58,080
front of me and i'm pushing myself

3005
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:01,280
up and i'm looking at the back

3006
01:49:05,830 --> 01:49:04,480
of my head i see my hair i see the back

3007
01:49:08,870 --> 01:49:05,840
of my head

3008
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:08,880
and i'm going out of my body and as i

3009
01:49:14,870 --> 01:49:11,040
start to go out of my body

3010
01:49:15,270 --> 01:49:14,880
i look to the right and there is a wall

3011
01:49:17,750 --> 01:49:15,280
there

3012
01:49:20,070 --> 01:49:17,760
about four and a half six maybe six feet

3013
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:20,080
away at the most

3014
01:49:24,790 --> 01:49:22,480
and it was right near where the door

3015
01:49:27,910 --> 01:49:24,800
opened to come into the room

3016
01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:27,920
and i had a big old radio

3017
01:49:33,109 --> 01:49:30,639
one of those old 1940s wood cabinet

3018
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:33,119
radios oh the bass sound on that was

3019
01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:35,920
lovely it was amazing anyhow i look at

3020
01:49:39,669 --> 01:49:36,880
this cabinet

3021
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:39,679
and suddenly it all disappears into a

3022
01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:40,560
bright light

3023
01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:44,000
and a portal is opening up in the wall

3024
01:49:47,430 --> 01:49:46,639
and a woman is coming down this long

3025
01:49:50,470 --> 01:49:47,440
white

3026
01:49:53,669 --> 01:49:50,480
hallway tunnel towards me

3027
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:53,679
in a beautiful flowing kind of

3028
01:50:00,629 --> 01:49:56,960
masters not masters of the universe but

3029
01:50:03,669 --> 01:50:00,639
um ascended master type of garb

3030
01:50:05,589 --> 01:50:03,679
and i look at her and she's beautiful

3031
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:05,599
folks i'm like i'm amazed i don't know

3032
01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:05,840
if

3033
01:50:11,830 --> 01:50:10,880
get but i was amazed and i realized it

3034
01:50:14,070 --> 01:50:11,840
was me

3035
01:50:15,270 --> 01:50:14,080
and that was even weirder so you know

3036
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:15,280
what i'm going to leave it as a

3037
01:50:18,950 --> 01:50:16,480
cliffhanger there

3038
01:50:20,470 --> 01:50:18,960
and i will see you guys all next week

3039
01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:20,480
and i will finish the story about the

3040
01:50:23,750 --> 01:50:22,080
lady coming through the wall

3041
01:50:25,510 --> 01:50:23,760
and i want to thank you all for putting

3042
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:25,520
up with me tonight without a guest it

3043
01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:25,840
was

3044
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:28,320
lots of fun so hang in there everyone